Michael Moore on Saddam's capture

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    What punishment do people think Saddam should ultimatley recieve ?? i think the death penalty is letting him off in a way, what does he have left to live for anyway now ???? let him sit in isolation for the rest of his life.
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    Randomvile - it's well shite
    I also think the death penalty is a too easy way out for him. Let him be humilliated in inprisonment for the rest of his life.

    Remember that he used to live like a king, let him rot.:up:
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    Death penalty is not an option, as I said in another thread it would give Islamic fundamentalists a new 'martyr' to fight and die for. I think spending the rest of his life in a cell is the only option open, but its a tough one and whatever happens its a sensitive situation.
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    I am still rather shocked he did not take his own life when he realised that his cover had been blown, i imagine his supporters were very suprised to see him give up so easily without a fight especially after his words of he would "never be taken alive", in the end the whole thing just showed him to be the cowardly little man that he is.
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    yep, he's got bugger all chance to go down as a muslim martyr/hero now even if he does get executed after a trial.

    From what I heard of reports in Arab papers yesterday they weren't too impressed with the manner of his cpature.

    Wonder if the US managed to gas him before the capture.... I would have bet my house on him taking a bullet before letting himself be captured
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    Maybe not, but many fundamentalists are not picky on their martyrs and I would still argue that executing him would be risky and he will still have some supporters/sypathisers out there.
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    Yeah the whole thing is very strange, you would of imagined there would of been some of Saddam's loyalists guarding him at the very least but what where the Americans confroned with two guards it just does not seem believable. An American general has said that they did the intelligence when the information on his whereabouts where recieved and decided that 600 soldiers where all that where needed he then said that if there had been a "decent number" of people guarding him they would of taken the whole brigade
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    dont you think what we 'hear' and what actually happens are two different things?

    people slate us/uk intelligence but at the end of the day we have no place to do such thing because i imagine the little we are told is completely fabricated anyway.

    you never know whos taking back handers and whos turning the screws. which probs makes most of our opinions on the 'situation' totally irrevlevent...
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    hmmmm, the capture was soooo perfect for the allies, and being naturally suspicious and cynical, and thinking back to the Jessica Lynch story which was "embellished" to say the least... I wouldnt be surprised if there's more, or less, to this story than we've seen so far
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    happy happy!! :)
    please wud someone explain to me in a nutshell what ya's r on about!!! cant be bothered to read all the thread and its too much 4 ma lil mind to understand!! :dunce: xxx
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    Your so lucky Iany-e has been barred with posts like that, we are just discussing the whole Iraq / America issues and also what should now happen to Saddam
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    happy happy!! :)
    oi im hardly a thicko thanks im at bloody uni am just not in the mood to trawl thru stuff u have to think about like that when its ma xmas holidays!! jsut wanted a brief overview of what ya's were talkin about!!! xxxx
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    Michael Moore is like a broken record, hasn't he told us the above a thousand times, what the fuck does it have to do with his capture? I'm sure most people are now far more concerned with issues to come - what impact will his capture have on the future of Iraq and the middle east crisis in general.

    The Iraqi war was an illegal war, I've yet to see a convincing arguement attempt to say otherwise. It defied several international laws with Richard Perle even saying "I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing," - it is within this arrogance the problem lies.

    On a global scale America can't dictate to the rest of the world what is moral or immoral, America can't take the role of a vigilante... You may feel Saddam was an evil man who needed to be removed, just as you may feel rapists need castrating - however as we live in a civilised society we can't take these laws into our own hands.

    Morality and international law is something defined by the UN.... not America.
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    WHY?!?!?!?

    Becuase they're not the only nation in the world, being the most powerfull nation does not give you the right to set/defy international laws. How can you oppose dictatorship then say that america can set their own laws because they're powerful enough to?

    Do you not see the hypocrisy?

    America abusing their power and killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's, is no different than Saddam killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's.... They both just have different excuses for doing so.

    Being powerful does not give you rights over weaker nations.

    How can you sit there and say that America are justified in disregarding international law?

    And yes I read it through, just because I disagree with rob and yourself does not mean I haven't read something through!
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    There is a bloody huge difference between tactical and strategic WMD, in terms of their potential threat. Sadam would never in a million years have had the capability to develop his own strategic WMD. Having said this, he may have been able to buy some.

    The war was in no way justified by WMD concerns. However, I do beleive that on ethical grounds, for the Iraqi people, the war was justified.

    I am not "fashionably" anti american, I have been for 8 years now (ever since i became politically active), and will continue to be for the forseeable future, unless a radical political shift to the left occurs within the US (yeah, right :rolleyes: )
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    Nah i'm quite liking at the mo :D

    i dont talk politics with everyone i meet over here but all our neighbours and friends etc have pretty much the same views as most british people i know...they arent all dum!

    Michael moore has been a big hit here for a good few years

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