Tony Blair - Should he step down?

I dont think it will be too long before he goes...the previous statement about labour never doing anything good for the country is total rubbish to be fair.

Personally I agreed with the proposed bill, as mentioned, people will sharp change their tones if something happens on "day 30" - the same people who are making all the fuss now will be the very first to say not enough was done.

I can't believe that his whole party turned against him on this - fair enough some people may be wrongly held, but not necessarily for 90 days - and this could foil a terrorist attack so whats the problem with it?

can you back that up with some examples please

can you disprove it? NOTHING good for the country?

Hardly an owning like.

Yes more people cant afford homes, but i said more people own their own homes now which is true so that argument is irrelevant to what i said.

Yes the economy might be on a knife edge but the fact of the matter is we've got some of the lowest interest rates this country has ever seen for years, surly thats proves the economy isnt too bad, if it was then surly interest rates would be going up rather than satying where they are, i'm no economist but that makes sense to me.

Eat my shorts

so you cant then?




ps it wasnt me who said they had done nothing

I can - simply cannot be arsed to type out many points, to be fair it was a very stupid comment, a government that has been in power nearly 10 years clearly has done many things right....

The tories have spent months and months electing their next equally shite leader, and it really doesnt matter cuz they are both about as useful as a condom machine in the vatican. I'd have Blair or Brown any day over them.

If the law had been passed (which i think it should) there would have been stringent tests and controls in place. PC Plod on the beat in Whitley couldn't just decide to start locking up muslims for 90 days in case they're terrorists.

There would have to be strong evidence for detaining a person. Then there's also very regular reviews in which Superintendents, and jduges, ranking from more localised right up to high court, all have to authorise a prolonged detention. Surely they can be trusted with the power.

I'd rather ave a situation in a few months time where somebody was held for 90 days and later found innocent, than somebody is held for 14 days and later blows up a tube/bus.

i think the tories ideals and policies apeal more to people nowadays, they see labour as too wishy-washy and liberal - just conservatives have had successivly shit leaders - i reckon more peoples opinions on how they vote is based soley on what they think/how they see of the leader rather than the ins and outs of a parties policies.

it's all about how they are seen!

As proven in the 60's when kennedy and nixon did the first live presidential t.v. debate

So - more people own their homes i.e. more people have mortgages. the ecconomy propped up on debt! it's false!

What about import and exports? why do u think everything is being moved abroad? it's cheaper do to EVERYTHING elsewhere.... it's only a matter of time before things get messy...

They're the people the whole country trusts to uphold the law.

If you're saying the police and the judiciary can't be trusted then that's a whole seperate issue.

I really couldnt give a fuck mate i just like seeing you's lot getting wound up about something we have no control over.

Exactly... it's any old excuse for plod to nick you... then release a few days later and say "opps sorry - we've made a mistake" and you've been locked up!!!

there was a thread on here a few weeks ago about a lad some got arrested on the tube for FUCK ALL and he's still feeling the repercusions

i'm not saying the police are bent - but it's far to broad powers to do what they want, all under the guise of 'terrorist threats'

As i said i'm not an economist so i wouldn't know and to be honest i dont really care, i'm doing ok and thats all i'm bothered about.

Thansk for your opioion tho.