FAO Tory Boy (a.k.a Jambon)

FAO Tory Boy (a.k.a Jambon)

Why doesn't communism work?

You constantly mock yet you've never given any reasoning for this (other than the collapse of the soviet union)... Why doesn't it work?

Re: FAO Tory Boy (a.k.a Jambon)

Tory Boy!!! Jambon is NEW LABOUR......

Re: Re: FAO Tory Boy (a.k.a Jambon)

The only way I can tell them apart is their tie colours - jambons further right than hitler.

The characteristic of greed is only seen in capitalist (And similar) economic systems.... One of the big communist theories is competition gives birth to greed and its the competitive nature that capitalism encourages that causes greed.... which you claim is human nature.

I don't accept the arguement that its human nature to be envious and greedy this is a capitalist conditioning as societies all over the world operate greed free, its onlywhen capitlist conditions are introduced that you start seeig corruption.

What a load of rubbish!! TORY BOY!!!


Surely the Fall of the Soviet union, the famine in North Korea and the other countless problems that is wrong with communist ruled countrys is enough justification for me to say it dont work.

Well said.

Joe a question for you my friend, What do you want to achieve from life?

But the soviet union wasn't communism, it was democratic socialism - it was a mixed economy and this is what brought about it's downfall - nothing to do communism.

North Korea - FUCK OFF - that is a dictatorship it has nothing to do with communism!!!!!

There has never been an example of authoritarian socialism so how can you possibly preach it wouldn't work? Many old communist states still wish for the good old SU days theres one in the news at the moment Georgia, georgia prospered under the soviet union and upon joining the capitlaist world their economy has collapsed (there are endless countries like this).

I'm by no means a follower of lenin - but he preached that for communism to work the country first needs to pass through an industrial capitalist phase - this is why the revolution wasexpected in western europe (not russia)... Russia had to buy up means of production and forced this progression - many political historian/theorists blame this coupled with the cold war and the corruption it brought as the downfall of the communist empire.

Capitalism will fail, no economic system lasts for ever and communism (or a similar system) is a very feesable alternative.... We're already seeing many of its spawns like fair trade, unions, minimum wages, state own hospitals, state owned educations, etc. these aren't capitalist values and as the world prgresses we are seeing more and more of these introduced to capitalist societies.

I deal with the present - don't watse time worrying where I'll be 50 years down the line and at the present I want my capitalist business to be a success....

However I am not a communist - I never have been never will be - but I don't dismiss communism because it says so in my new labour pamphlets... Half your political heroes come from communist theoolgy... YOU SUPPRT THE RED PARTY!!!!

However with right wing conservatives like yourself as the future - I can understand why you'd assume communism is dead... VIVA THE TORRIES!

Once my Java homework is finished i'll be back Joe.


democratic socialism

Can you give me an example of a capitslist state that works?

Every succesful captilaist state I can think of is tainted with the red brush.

It also depends on what you define as succesful - if sucess is 10% of the population posess 90% of its wealth then capitalism is certainly successful.... However I don't define success by the wealth of a few individuals.... I'd say a more equal distribution of wealth in an affluent state would be a far greater example of a succesful society.... If you consider the wealth of one nation through the exploitation of weaker nations then capitlism certainly is succesful hwoever if your living in somewhere like Iraq you may percieve capitlism in a very different light.

but capitlism breeds corruption - its the greed that capitlism encourages that causes things like enron scandals, oil wars, etc. You find me a capitlist government that isn't corrupt and I'll agree that capitlism works.

Would communism work?

would capitalism?

Are you saying that someone can't make a better life for themselves in communist states?!?!?!?!?