Man-made global warming.... biggest myth of this century

Man-made global warming.... biggest myth of this century

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Global temperatures appear to be rising
Carbon levels are rising
There's a plausible mechanism for how carbon might cause warming
The is a very large consensus amongst those who've studied it that it is the most likely way
The consequences of global warming are potentially catastrophic
Michael Crichton's 'State of Fear' was rubbish - the arguments against the above are not convincing.

Like all 'theories' it's an untestable hypothesis, so we can't prove it one way or the other.

As with so many other theories (gravity, evolution) it seems to me to be the most plausible explanation that has been proposed, and I am happy to accept that it is not the biggest myth of this or any other century.

as the temprature rises the carbon levels follow... surely its the temprature thats the trigger and not the reverse.

man made carbon emissions are dwarfed by immissions from the oceans... what happens to the oceans when the temprature rises?

its a load of poppycosh.

(ps. I'm not advocating pollution... just tearing down the illussion )

The mroe I've read about it the more I'm in agreement with it.... carbon hysteria is another thatcher legacy.

fucking tories

still think low eco-cars are a good idea though

i don't know enough about any of it - however, the amount of polution we're putting out as a race, can't be good for the environment, it's obviously ruining the atmosphere.

the world will go on - just life as we know it, won't.

how?

Whether global warming is the fault of man or not, I also believe strongly in conserving natural resources, so will recycle, try to reduce energy consumption, etc etc.

From what I've read, the evidence indicates that either we are causing global warming, or are at least not helping things. However, as we don't know if we are causing it or not, it is better to be safe than sorry. Being more careful is certainly not going to make it worse.

how can pumping tons of shite into the atmosphere NOT ruin it? less trees to turn the CO2 in to oxygen - it's hardly going to be doing it any good is it?

Yup. People aren't thinking of things in a worldwide sense either. For example, we have co-firing power stations that burn palm oil as well as conventional fossil fuels, to gain renewable credits. However, much of the palm oil is grown in Indonesia, for which they cut down natural jungle which in turn leaves less room for wildlife such as orangutangs.

I think we all know that our lifestyles, especially if copied in china, india, south america etc are simply unsustainable. It's not just global warming, it's water pollution/depletion, nuclear waste, overfishing, desertification, rain forest destruction........
I know cows arses pump out more climate change gasses than industry but it seems unlikely that we can continue to shit in our own pants for ever.
If it is a strong possibility that our actions will fuck the planet, then we should do all we can to stop that happening.
If it turns out that the scientists are wrong about global warming then at least we won't have fucked things up as quick as we might have, and if they are right then we will save our childrens future. It's a no brainer.

'Fraid not, but I can see why you might think that.

You're talking about ice studies I think - warmings take 5000 years to complete, yet they show a carbon lag of 800 years behind temperature, leaving 4200 years carbon could partly explain. All this lag suggests is that CO2 is not responsible for the first 800 years or 16% of warming - this warming could have then been partly responsble for the further CO2 release that causes further temperature rise.

CO2 may not be the initiating factor, and I suggest that that might be the natural variation, but it is widely regarded as an exacerbating factor, and our efforts to reduce emissions are thus justified.

Furtherore, as BOB very rightly points out, conservation is a valubale and worthwhile goal as well.

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