The events forum has turned into an absolute dump?

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Do you think the Events forum is going to pot?

  1. No, looks fine to me

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  2. Yeah, ban the spammers

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  1. Conway

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    The events forum has turned into an absolute dump?

    Has anyone else noticed the sheer amount of spamming we're getting on this recently?

    Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against the local nights and peeps promoting themselves on there (the shindig lads, the habit lads, 909, smurf, blackhall and even team detox), but it seems like it's being hijacked by the likes of crazyclubber66, janinegc and emporiumpromotions who not only post multiple events but bump them as many times as possible, making the entire thing look cluttered and hard to read!

    None of them contribute to the board anyways so they should be banned.

    What do you think?
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  3. TheSpence

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    Mods today are not what the used to be. The Golden era me & Jambon, we may have took this piss but we got the job done with a iron fist at times.
  4. claire

    claire Beautifully Bad

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    They're not doing anything wrong, that's what the forum is for. There's 4 pages of threads covering a month, it's not like things get lost in there.
  5. Gav Freaky Dancing

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    I do think it'd be worth having a one thread per event rule though to be honest as when you have people posting up multiple threads about the same event it does fuck the whole thing up, pushing other events off the front page / onto page 3 or 4 where they'll not be seen.

    This has generally been the way it's worked anyway, but there have been a couple of people recently taking the piss, and I realised there is no actual rule about it.

    This isn't to say that someone like shindig who runs monthly shouldn't be able to post a monthly line up thread, and another thread about the individual nights, just that there should only be one thread dedicated to an individual night.

    I also think there should be a rule about posting meaningful titles, including the events name, date, venue, city (if not newcastle) and artists, rather than bollocks titles like "not long now!" or "As If........."

    Basically if it's to continue to be useful, then promoters who use it need to use it properly, so that people can have a quick look through it to see if there's anything they like the look of coming up / on that weekend, not have to weed their way through multiple posts that may or may not be of interest but they have to click them to find out.

    bottom line though is that there need to be the rules in place so people know what's expected of them, and then the mods can enforce them. If the council still exist, then I believe this is a job for them... I'm happy to draft some rules / nick them from elsewhere if nobody else can be arsed.
  6. Gav Freaky Dancing

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    actually I've just seen the emporium promotions bod's 4 thread bumpage effort, and the events forum does look a right mess at the moment.

    My solution wouldn't be to ban people immediately though, remember one persons spam about events could be another persons useful information, and it's a bit harsh to ban people who've not broken any rules (even though that's only because there pretty much aren't any rules).

    As this is a Newcastle based clubbing website, I reckon that to stop national events that aren't relevant to most people from bumping local events off the front page the events forum should split into 2 forums,

    1 = Newcastle & North East Events
    2 = National & International Events

    I then think the forum should add the following rules for the both events forums

    1 - All threads in this forum must be related to an event taking place in Newcastle or the North East of England. Threads about events taking place elsewhere should be posted in the National & International events forum

    2 - All new threads must be given a meaningful title, including the name of the event, date of the event, venue of the event, and any other info such as headline artists. Threads with meaningless / cryptic titles will be deleted.

    3 - Promoters are requested to only post one thread per event, exceptions to this rule may be made if it's a weekly event where seperate threads for the monthly line up's & each specific event are allowed, or if there is a major change to the event such as it being cancelled, or change of headliner.

    4 - Excessive bumping of threads is not allowed

    5 - Hijacking other events threads to promote your event is not allowed.

    Threads which break these rules may be deleted by the moderators, and persistant offenders may be banned at the discretion of the sites Moderators.


    * rule 1 would obviously need to be adapted for the national events forum.

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    that's my suggestion anyway
  7. Mad4it

    Mad4it Faster than a cannonball

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    Seem's fair that, he has my vote.
  8. Conway

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    what hacks me off is the fact these people don't contribute to the board. If you look at everyone else (gav, smurf, 909, blackhall, the shindig & habit brigade) they all post here outside of their event threads. The mentioned users in my original post don't. If they don't contribute anything apart from plugging their own nights and bumping them as much as they can, why should they be allowed on here?
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    I agree !!
  10. ManofScience

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    i agree it's often difficult to filter out the shite of whats a local night u may like to go to and whats spam from some big promoter - however, some of the national stuff may be of some interest to some people who may want to travel a little but nowadays people don't seem to travel anymore in general - but should we stop them alltogether?

    The gatecrasher stuff - you see we have GC banners - which means Rob has an agreement with them that we host their banners - so us mods banning them probably wouldn't happen. also, giving local nights favouritism can bring it's criticsm (sp?) - this board doesn't seem to need the moderating it USED to have, as it ticks along quite nicely with minimal input - too many rules people start moaning about the mods are friendly with so and so or it's 1 rule for them etc etc etc.

    Local nights are as guilty of doing "not long now" or "this friday" type posts - how do we treat these? delete them? what about our newest spammer, Digit-al - his pointless spam, yet for a local influential club, could also be heavily moderated.


    So - splitting the event section - do people think it's a good idea?
  11. TheSpence

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    I like this.

    It would be good if all the events could be stickyed in date order at the top & when there done with the get deleted. It ends the whole 'bump'.

    Bumping do people really think this works, I often think the event gets lost in it all.
  12. ManofScience

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    maybe people shouldn't be able to post in Event listing threads at all? just the original post, with details - they can edit it if things happen? so it's just 1 post threads
  13. Phil Mitchell

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    ffs all you need to do is to ban that Emporium character and its fine

    Nucastle mods = Lib Dems

    lots of words but no content
  14. TheSpence

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    The simplicity of it makes it a completely way out there idea.
  15. Danny_Habit

    Danny_Habit Registered User

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    i think we should just let melt decide.

    seriously though, i think gav's suggestions are fair.
  16. Þ€tè®*

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    exactly, it's the only person who pisses me off tbh
  17. Aaron!

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    This sounds the best idea.

    Might be a bit of extra work but the Mods can edit the title of the thread to include the Date of the event and event name maybe if it doesn't include them in the title? And if any other threads get posted about the same event they can merge the threads as one or delete it if its just uses less spam giving the same details as the original thread?

    *Edit* just realized thats not viable as sticky's still move up and down the page in accordance with last post date...
  18. MistaK

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    just ban Digit-al. he's a premium-spammer like.

    but yeah, like the idea. pointless events like "geet waxa hardcore 3000 event @ a geet massive venue in that place down south" isnt really in keeping is it?
  19. Gav Freaky Dancing

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    Having slept on it, I still think it's a good idea, and's better than just banning the spammers, as for some people that spam is actually useful information - just not for the majority of the people using this board for info on stuff in newcastle.

    the events forum is a right mess at the moment, splitting off the national nights would be one part of the solution, and adopting and enforcing the rules I've given would solve the rest of the problem - mostly the new digital promotions bod who'se started shitloads of threads with meaningless titles, and posting up about 4 different threads for evolve last week. I was making allowances for the digital bod coz they're new, but if there'd actually been some rules to have pointed him to, it'd have been sorted after the first time he stepped out of line.

    It'd be silly stickying every event, or stopping people from posting comments in the events sections - it'd just create a load of work for the mods in stickying and unstickying things, and this is a discussion forum about clubbing, half the point is for people to be able to discuss events...

    Adopting some rules to manage the forum is a tried and tested method of sorting this out, it works everywhere else on the internet, can't see why it wouldn't work here.
  20. Conway

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    some mods solely for the events forum would be a good idea, thespence or jambon would be good candidates :up:
  21. ManofScience

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    :lol: like we're really over worked.....

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