shut up thats not what i said To quote an overused cliche , the best djs will read the dancefloor and adapt people seem to think that with Ableton that the whole set is planned and you just press a button and it will play for 3 hours Course there are people doing that but people with any sense and interest in djing will do more with it Talking of putting a cd , i used to go to a club when i first left school called Ministry Of Sin in Aberdeen and the DJ there used to put on Dance Hits 97 or whatever it was and PRETEND he was mixing
By the way , in Fabric the dj can see the crowd through a grill type thing on the front of the DJ booth.....apart from that you/they cant see them/you from the dancefloor
prydz an lawler, nowt but graft behind the decks , very little interaction with the crowd BUT most excellent DJ's an awesome nights out
I think if you're going to use Ableton then you've got to be doing something a bit more special, normally mixing a lot of tunes / samples
Ableton's pretty difficult to fuck up, but when you do it goes in a big, big way. Most dance music is made up from different loops anyway so why not have the power to deconstruct a track and rebuild it as you see fit. It only takes the tedious bits out of using a cdj (or 10).
i think mixing and tune selection are just as important, i like to go see good djs, and a good dj to me is someone who can mix well and plays class tunes, i wouldn't go see someone who was really skillfull but played shite music, nor would i go see someone play good tracks but with train crash mixing
I did but I think it would be even better if they were more visible. Just cos somewhere is good doesn't mean it couldn't be better
i love DJ interaction, i love seeing 'the craft' - just backs up the therory "whats so good? they're just playing records" arguement...
Personally im all FOR technology moving on in dance music and some kind of move away from people gawking at judge jules and his trumpet in the DJ booth mentality... .... but i think Ableton is going to convince alot of technologically able, but musically lame people that they are now DJ's, similarly with other digital mixing programs like traktor. Ive said it before, but you can usually spot an ableton set a mile off by the over use of extended intros, outro's, builds and whatever - Gabriel and Dresden seem to be doing this far too much in their recent livesets - I mean what are they thinking? Is this going to impress people that your too lazy to mix properly so you take the last 16 bars of a tune and loop it while you lazily mix in the next track at a leisurely pace? No thanks. Other people might bang on about being able to loop, layer etc etc etc - but at the end of the day does that translate to something meaningful to the people listening to the music - or does it end up nine times out of ten sounding like someone playing around with some music in their bedroom, but at YOUR expense......... Personally i find pointless drum loops and layering some of the most boring stuff on earth (even if i do love prog). .... I reckon being a great dj is all about timing... picking the right tunes, playing them at the right points, and mixing them in the right way - Ableton seems to be breaking that rule right now.
..... On the other hand - there are some people who seem to be using it properly. Sasha, ive heard, works his arse off when he's DJ'ing with Ableton to actually produce meaningful results..... and people like Desyn Masiello (i think it was him) have said they use it offline to make tunes more dancefloor suitable (for that DJ at least).
