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  1. claire

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    Dr Watson is reknowned for it though, his sexist remarks, his views on terminating a foetus if a gay gene is found, it's perfect timing for his new book too.

    Over the year studies in America have shown the gap between white and black American IQ scores to be narrowing which suggests that IQ is environmentally influenced
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    I take your point about aryan supremacy but that alone was not what led to the jewish holocaust. hitler pushed out propaganda and the Jews were accused of being too clever if anything. They had organised a takeover of the german economy was why they had to be got rid of. They were accused of conspiracy rather than stupidity.
    What happened in germany of course was complete control of the media by the Nazis and a stifling of any debate. In those conditions it was easy to push bad science because no one was allowed to challenge it. Stifling debate is always counterproductive in the long run because it allows lies to go unchecked. I cannot see a holocaust taking place in any society with genuine free speech, but I can in one where people are banned from speaking. He should have been allowed to speak.
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    Your just blond Geordie from Wolsingham
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    i was gona say, youre a geordie arent you joe, you've adopted a religion not the son of an azk-whatever couple and dont have jewish genes

    correct me if im wrong tho.
  5. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    you're wrong ;)

    my grandfather was a rabbi, I have the most jewish surname in the world and I'm of polish ashkenazi stock.

    a fine pedigree ;)

    andy do you think that david irving should be given platforms to make speeches on?
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    fair enough. i thought you were a geordie who adopted the religion.
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    joe who do you think should get to decide who's allowed to speak and who isn't ?
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    the elected government
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    in that case you must agree watson should have been allowed to speak since it wasn't the government banning him
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    the creationists should be allowed to speak and present their evidence. at which point it would become painfully obvious that they haven't any. But I guess the science museum has an unlimited supply of people wanting to speak so maybe they only need to have people respected by their scientist peers in order to fill all the spots. I guess if the pope was to allow Dawkins to speak at St. Peters then the science museum might be persuaded to do a like for like :D
    I read more about what Watson actually said and that was that the evidence from IQ test scores showed that the Chinese and Japanese were most intelligent followed by Europeans and then Africans. This seems to be a fact. However the validity of standard IQ tests as a true measure of intelligence is very much in doubt as cultural factors are impossible to completely remove.

    He was not, as far as I know, going to speak about relative intelligence. A reporter put out the quote that he gave as a throwaway remark in an interview.
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    what on earth are you talking about, private institutions should always have the ability to provide a platform for whom ever they please how is this a government matter?

    your mind works in mysterious ways forks.
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    lol didn't you dismiss the distinguished Gerald Schroeder?

    you don't stink of hypocrisy - you reek of it ;)
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    LOL I love how you talk about things you know nothing about; the tests you're speaking are completely cultural - asians come out highest (perhaps because from a young age they have to memorise the most complex language on the planet - in both written and spoken forms), then comes the highly educated post-enlightenment west... At the bottom of the heap come africans (and other lesser developed peoples).

    Intelligence currently cannot be messured in genetic terms as the brain reprograms itself when it comes into contact with outside stimuli... This is why the vast majority of scientists have accused watson of using his prestige to push his own bigoted agenda.
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    andy he was a nuclear physcist professor at MIT and a member of the US atomic agency commission... You showed me a website of some cocky school kids trolling and claiming a scientist of his callibre didn't know what mass was.

    He is distinguished in his field, you don't work work at MIT unless you are distinguished (Chomsky, Baltimore, Townes, etc.)
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    people that inhabit nations that haven't develope at the same speed as the west; the pacific islanders tend to not fare as well as parisains....
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    andy I know you've never read his papers, maybe a few paragraphs on the website but that will be it.

    He's neither right nor wrong, as with any other existence theorists; but in your hypocritical manner you dismiss him because the theory he puts forwards doesn't conform with your neo-darwinist rhetoric.... He is a creationist; he presents an argument grounded in science - yet you dismissed him.

    hypocrit?
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    joe you didn't read what I said....... I said it was a fact that IQ tests show varied abilities BUT I said that IQ tests are unreliable evidence.
    your ramblings about undeveloped peoples and pacific islanders show your ignorance and is supremacist speak. maybe you should join the far right thats where your trajectory seems to be heading. maybe you could organise some immigrant bashings, show em who's boss that sort of thing.

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