Faith schools

of course... there are hundreds of translations... I have two.

However they are not accurate and are poor immitations... to best understand you need to read it in Hebrew

i feel like i'm chasing my tail.

ha see going back on ure words ure so full of shit

you really are the most dense gobshite ever to be shat into civilisation.

its funny how most racists in this country seem to be of the same knuckle dragging braindead ilk, unable to argue a valid point... how people like you are allowed to breed is beyond me.

funny thing is your hero hitler wanted to wipe out mental retards aswell so you would have been first in line for the gas chamber, which makes you an even bigger hypocrtical idiot.

BUT I WASNT FIRST INLINE

i know who was tho

and im a smart fella

pity.

No you're not.

no not at all its just you said to me the other week that it could not be translated as there was no english translation so i was wondering why you can learn it and i couldn't

no I didn't!

I even went to the lengths of explaining how the american version of the movie the italian job was inferior... show me where i said it couldn't be translated?!?!?!?

I said a lot was lost in translation.

see they've decided to drop the 25% other faith requirement for new faith schools. So I guess we'll be heading for more ghettos filled with people who know nothing of their fellow citizens culture and beliefs

You sound like a UKIP voter.

You dont' see drama school kids segregating themselves from society and plotting to blow up trains from their little middle class ghettoes, nor do you find farmers or art students.... Specialist schools don't teach segregation - they merely provide their pupils with an alternative education.

Faith schools have existed in the UK since the dawn of the british education, there has never been a problem with religious people splintering off and creating ghettoes where they are oblivious to the outside world.... The proposition was sheer lunacy from the start and this is the reason the government have jumped off this embarrassing bandwagon.

A rabbi has just been on bbc1 saying that he prefers to send his kids to a standard school as he says to love your neighbour u need to know your neighbour. he said he would rather have his kids sitting next to a muslim, walkin home with an atheist so that his kids got to know them and they got to know his kids. this way they can understand each other and respect peoples beliefs and faiths.

his view, which is apparently the view of the masses (mine aswell) faith schools cause more segregation in society.

he sounds like a putz

faith schools have never caused segregation historically... what are you basing this assumption on?

The vast majority of segregated muslims in the UK didn't attend faith schools.

i'd base it on common sense. u always get competition and banter between schools, whether faith or not, so its only logical that the religion of different schools will add to any distance between the pupils from them. this will in turn affect the views of those pupils on the others' religious beliefs.

do art colleges go to war with cooking schools?

Probably not but at the same time u don't see fully qualified chefs shooting or blowing up artists because they decided to follow art instead of cookery

thats my point, the radicalisation and segregation of communities isn't a produce of faith schools... islamic faith schools have only just begun to be introduced to the UK, yet the UK has never had a problem of Jews and Christians blowing themselves up.

To blame faith schools is insane as the majority of radicalised muslims were radicalised in mosques... The government should be focused on tackling the real issues rather than jumping on the latest bandwagon.

absolutely correct, its not....its a product of religion itself.

lol no it isn't... Its a product of man.

A great example of this is Palestine, Palestinians carry out suicide attacks against Israeli's in the name of Allah... If you removed religion from the area do you think Palestinians would be any less radical?

No.

Similarly if Islam didn't exist in Burnley do you think the community would coexist in perfect harmony with their white neighbours? No.

Young muslims aren't blowing themselves up on trains because their religion tells them too, they are martyring themselves as reaction to British national and foreign policies... Islam is not the cause - it's merely another tool.

If you want to see an end to suicide attacks, tackle the root problem.

the point about faith schools is they get primary and secondary school kids. Art schools and agriculture schools get under-graduates.
If you go to a faith school and never meet anyone from out your comfort zone you become narrow in your outlook. how could you do otherwise? no one to challenge the views you are fed every day.
when you get to uni then maybe you get a kick up the arse but what about the ones who don't go? they sit in the ghetto learning to hate the ones who are different from them with no way of knowing they are getting propoganda.
White NF members are just typical of this sort of mindset before you get on the horse joe

it's amazing the amount of customer reviews for this book. 153 when I looked. they range from fundamentalist atheists to fundamentalist theists and all points in between. I think Dawkins comes over as extreme and hectoring and humourless sometimes which doesn't help his case (which I agree with) but I'm glad someone is making the atheist case against a rising tide of religious influence all over the world which seems to me to be mostly malign in it's effects.
there are also some wonderful comments from people who claim to have found conclusive proof that evolution never happened.

and Joe has gone off to sulk because we are all anti semitic cretins and not worthy of his mighty intellect.......