Faith schools

you ever read Bertrand Russel on religion? he said it all for me and in a humane and non confrontational way.
basically his take was that religion developed because people desperately want their lives to have meaning and so are totally ready to believe anyone who tells them they have THE ANSWER.
Conversely people will reject the truth if it contradicts this faith no matter what

yes but it seems to me that religion is making a massive comeback no matter how loopy.

give it time. Science is on the retreat everywhere.

And where did I dismiss quantum theory?

You two are far more fanatical in your hatred of religion than any religious fanatic I've ever encountered, have you ever considered standing at the monument and preaching to the blind? You could show them the light.

If someone wants to follow a religion, what the fuck does it have to do with either of you condescending pricks?

ah the sweet balm of reason has descended once more.

I think in my case it's cos I'm scared of what religion brings with it. or can.
people who beleive in irrational things can use them to promote all sorts of restrictions on my life which cannot be argued against because god says it's so.
I suppose some extreme examples were the inquisition the taliban and even the murder of jews in york but there are countless others like prohibition in the USA in the twenties to catholics dying of aids because they can't have condoms.
I don't mind anyone believing any nonsense they want as long as they don't start telling me I have to obey the 'laws' of their god

like the war for democracy in Iraq?

quantum theory is true


QUANTUM LEAP fine example sam becket loved leaping

Jimi it brings a smile to my face when you post in a religious thread without calling me a wanker

keep up the good work blood

yes just like that. did not born again bush say he was ridding the world of the 'axis of evil'

and while were at it would you rather have someone with their finger on the nuclear button who thought that his life would end along with everyone elses, or someone who thought he would live on regardless?

thats why he loves mankind

I'd much rather the person with the finger on the button had a moral backbone provided by religion, than some $ motivated capitalist pig

where did I say that?

Religions tend to revolve around morality, capitalism is the diametric opposite of this... All i commented on was the religious fanatic forks talked of in comparisson to those that tend to control capitalist democracies.

religions tend to revolve around authority.
capitalism revolves around greed, but at least the most greedy person would realise that their possessions would be worthless if nuked, whereas the religious would feel that they would get another bite of the cherry

karl pilkington - " you're better off not knowing too much. look at that Einstein. look how he ended up"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6176209.stm

another example of modern science catching up with judaism.

"Experts said it was a significant breakthrough but could not replace standard methods of preventing infection such as condoms."

I see Olmert has finally admitted that Israel has WMD (unlike Sadaam )
I guess that's an example of modern science catching up with Judaism

You keep laughing at my religion andy, yet modern science is only just catching up with what we've practised for years.

We were either 3000 years ahead of our time... or we got our knowledge elsewhere.

the head of the world health organisations HIV/aids department which produced the circumcision report is the wonderfully named Mr Kevin de Cock