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Lol no you don't get enough protein in meals if your wanting to build up, it depends totally on what your after, if you want energy then yes go for carbs, loading on carbs will also help you gain weight, protein is great for recovery and muscle synthesis, why would every athlete about take it if it was all false info and didn't work?

yes, but you dont need masses of protein

People who train everyday and compete in competitions, and also do personal training know nothing then? lol

I know you don't your body can only take so much and the rest is waste, but protein shakes for recovery are important after training, they work great for me personally thats why i use them, and i agree you need carbs as they're just as important.

when have i said it doesnt work
i said it wasnt as important as carbs

Aghh right, i thought you were trying to dismiss it all together. Again though it's all about what you want to achieve really, i wanted to put on weight so started using high carb shakes and it worked, but as soon as i stopped drinking then my weight dropped too, with protein i find i can build slowly when used with other supplements and maintain it better

Nail on the proverbial head there. I'm sure I've seen this discussion on this board before.

On the whole supplements are complete bullshit, a varied diet will get you everything you need without too much effort - if your body wants more protein your palate will change so you will actively seek out more protein i.e. fancying some chicken etc.

Your mates who are body builders/pro fighters are probably elite sportsmen so training the same as them isn't going to produce the same results for you. If they're using supplements the only effect it's probably having is psychological and making them train harder because they think they're being helped.

Just do whatever works for you and whatever you enjoy, that way you're more likely to stick to your training. Wasting money on supplements is up to the individual but in all the studies I've read on the subject there's very little evidence to support their use.

Just try stuff mate and see what works for you really

no, i take it myself
the suppliment i use contains, carbs, protein and creatine
i only take it once a day after training to aid recovery

Its all about getting the balance of carbs and protein right
To build muscle you need a massive amount of protein compared to the normal persons daily intake.
I used to eat over 300 gms protein a day when i was competing.

I do take what works for me lol otherwise i wouldn't buy the stuff, i've always ate well but when i first started training i didn't gain too much, now i found out what supplements work for me and take them, i've increased the ammount of weight i lift, look better, and i'm able to train more, alot of times twice a day, gym in the morning and thai boxing/mma at night.

I don't just buy stuff cos it has a pretty bottle, i buy stuff that works for me personally.

Thankyou

Sounds to me like you're just getting fitter, irrespective of your supplements.

lol supplements don't turn you into superman over night, they aid in speeding the process up and making sure your body gets the right fuel so to speak.

At the end of the day i can't be arsed arguing with people and listen to them tell me what works for me lol i've tried different stuff, taken advice from people who know what they're talking about and i'm seeing results so ill stick to it, so argue on people lol

So they could just as easily be doing nothing then?

I know how supplements effect someone following a training program, I spent over 5 years studying it.