how much money is enough?

I thought you were gonna say £110110 or something

00101000+

lmao.. 40k plus eh..

lmfao

got a favour to ask from you sunbeam

Reet

oh not this again.. :fart:

it boils my blood when i hear of company execs earning 200k + a year and they do fuck all !!
the real workers in this damned country earn nothing,there are ppl who get paid ridiculous amounts of money to do nothing in exec positions.
telewest have just made over 6000 ppl redundent so they can send the work to india yet i dont see the government sending any indians home !! if forieners come here for a better life cos of lack of work in thier own lands then when work is moved over there we should send bunches of them back also.
we are massively over populated in this country and all the countries problems are related to this.

id like to be to about the same by that time, gonna have to sort me shit out like and find a career path first

you lot need to be self employed

1st year of trading for me and i took around 25k top line

i seam to be up 42% this year

i will still be skint for the next few years until the debts are paid off, then the masterplan all comes together

what do you do mickey?

i took the first few steps into setting up my own computer services company, got a site made, registered the name etc etc.

Then i realised just how irritated i get by peoples constant phone calls, and have sacked it off for now :laugh:

worth a shot when i finish uni though, if it doesnt go to plan then theres nowt much lost!

I've been self employed for years and you find that you work your bollox off for less than you would in a job. no holiday pay, you can't throw a sickie, you're only as good as the last job you did.
BUT there is no fucker on your back telling you what to do and you can go in whatever direction you like as long as you can make some cash at it and if you are doing something you love then it's like getting paid for having a good time.
If you were just doing it for the money though I don't think you could suceed, I think you have to be obsessive about it and then the money MAY follow.

it's not the fault of the people you want to send back. they are just people like you or me trying to do the best they can for themselves and their families. you are just looking to hurt someone because you feel angry but it's the telewest shareholders and chief execs who should be made to leave not some poor immigrant.

I tend to agree with most peeps 20-25k would be comfortable, u could save on that for the finer things in life!

Tis a fucked up world we live in, when ya young you want all the money in the world to do those things you want to do, holidays, cars, mod cons etc.... but cant afford to do it.

Then when you hit 40/50+ and hopefully are earning 30k+ ya past it, no nolonger want too or cant do the things you wanted to do!

Unless you're in London.

And 40/50+ is hardly past it! There's still plenty that you want to do and can do. Life isn't just for the under 30s (though it seems like it at the time).

Yeah true.....

there's ways around not paying the higher tax bracket. my old boss got the max pay he could before the next tax limit - then got the rest as divis from shares. or something.

he was a sly fucker.

and that folks is the thatcher philosophy in a nutshell.
well what's wrong with it is this. Not everyone is in a position to acheive their goals, some people are disabled, some people are forced to look after other people, some people are born into families where they get it beat out of them. some people are born thick, or clumsy or without talent. some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouths, some people get wads of cash and a business left to them, some people get sent to public schools and can use the old boy network, some people intimidate abuse and exploit people weaker than them. And some people are unlucky.
It's about fairness and humanity. It can't be right that the CEO of a company can pay themselves £8,500,000 a year +bonuses and massive pension whilst paying other people £5 an hour. It says 'I think you are worthless shit and I am godlike'
nobody minds anyone 'doing well' it's just that they have some moral duty to their fellow humans.

It's all to do with supply and demand, rather than morality. There are very few people with the right skills, intelligence, drive etc to take these high positions. If a company wants to compete with other companies to attract such people to work for them (and therefore give them a perceived competitive advantage), they have to offer high enough salaries to attract them. If they don't, the person in question will just go and work for someone who will.

There are very few people who would work somewhere that was paying less than somewhere else but paying the rest of staff more, purely for moral reasons.

You are also making a judgement that the people that do earn a vast amount of money don't give any of it away to charity etc, to people or causes who are perhaps even more in need than their poorly paid staff.

Personally, I do think the size of some of these salaries is ridiculous, but I can see (economically) why it happens.

yes I can see how it happens but that doesn't make it right. markets left to their own devices will bring about slavery.
and gremany and france seem to do alright with CEO's paid on average two thirds of ours.
many of these CEO's get bought in, fuck up and get paid off with millions in severance pay whilst the people they fired are on the dole with their money paid by the rest of us
I think there should be a law that no one in a company can earn more than 20 times the lowest paid. that way there would be an incentive to raise everybodies wages