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  1. Nass

    Nass sound. Staff

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    Lets go to Newquay in June or July!
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    i graduate in one of those, i think july.

    but yes, i'm game. who else is?
  3. andy_rocks

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    Turns out that the video was from 2007, and the israeli army has made yet another of its famous 'mistakes', for which noone need be held accountable.
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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  5. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    That wasn't my letter... But how anyone can defend these child murdering monsters is beyond me:

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    how many kids has israel killed in the last 2 weeks? 22+ i believe?
  7. forks

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    the cartoon would be more accurate if the Israeli soldier was hiding behind a tank, supported with an F16 dropping bombs on the Palastinian, who was armed with a pile of stones and a home made rocket
  8. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    ey up ness, it's been a while :)

    I have friends who's children have been raised knowing nothing but bomb shelters, they're even educated in shelters... they've witnessed family and friends injured or murdered by Hamas missiles.

    Over 3000 rockets have fallen on Israel this year alone.... Hamas launch these missiles, rockets and shells from built up areas, they stash them in mosques, fire them from schools, train their militants in residential areas.... I ask you a genuine question.

    What would you do?

    What would you do if every 3 hours your child had 15 seconds to reach the safety of a shelter... Every 3 hours a missle falls on southern israel - you know exactly where they're being fired from, you know who's firing them, you know where they're storing these weapons.

    Israel is defending it's children.... Hamas are using their innocent children as human shields... pawns in their sick propoganda.
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    either on a messenger of death or a naval base


    at the end of the day you were a ket head
  10. forks

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    well the present Israeli strategy is absolutely certain to produce the next generation of rocket firers.
    the hatred induced by this strategy is incalcuable.
    see Lebanon for what it will achieve.

    there has to be a better life for the people of Gaza than what Israel is offering.
    Gaza is now a close approximation of the Warsaw ghetto. How can the Jews do this??????
  11. BRID

    BRID Has name in red. Staff

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    At the end of the day, innocent people end up being victims of another mans war.

    If anything, the real crime against humanity is ending up involved with it, or dead, fighting for something that you just cant fight..... on the behalf of people who will never have to suffer being blown up or shot.
  12. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    the warsaw ghetto was a stop gap for innocent Jews waiting for execution.

    Gaza is an unoccupied territory used by an unelected terrorist government to launch war on an neighbouring state....
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    Yeah i'll tell you what i'd do:

    1) Realise that what I am doing at the moment isn't working, and didn't work when I tried it 2 years ago or any other time.

    2) Recognise that in order to overcome the desperation and fundamentalism that leads to young palestinians being willing to kill themselves that some form of carrot is going to be needed instead of a stick. A good idea would be to open trade routes and provide education and healthcare.

    3) Stop denying a few truckloads of food to the people I have empoverished whilst accepting several billion dollars of aid each year from the US.

    4) Tell the people I am advising to leave their homes where they are supposed to go, and if I've told them where to go then not bomb it and kill everyone inside anyway. Ditto schools the UN has given me coordinates for and told me about.

    5) Withdraw to my pre-1967 positions, open trade routes with the Palestinians, give them food, build schools and roads, talk to their elected governments. Prosecute citizens and soldiers who murder Palestinians. Tackle terrorism in territories by financing and supporting moderate groups and police forces of elected governments.
  14. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    Israel wants to tallk, infact israel does nothing but talk - what has been happening in Egypt over the past 2 years? What has been happening for the last 50 years? Israel has initiated more peace talks than any of its Arab neighbours.... Israel don't just talk they act! We pulled out of Gaza.... Yet Hamas wont even recognise our right to exist, this is why the rockets wont stop.



    Israel has let in 500 aid trucks since the conflict started, thats more trucks than Hamas have fired missiles into Israel... I ask you - how many trucks have Egypt allowed in?

    You call Israel evil, yet Israel supports a nation that wages war on it with aid... while its allies hold a nation to seige.
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    it's pointless anyone arguing about it. it's completely fucked - no matter which angle you look at it! religion causing shite for innocent people yet again.

    and joe, how you've went from a ket head graffiti artist to a born again jewish saint is beyond me :lol:
  16. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    mistak, in fairness you nor andy_rocks, nor forks, nor jimi... have ever met me.

    You ahve no idea who or what I was 8 years ago
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    You're deluding yourself, there are no rockets or AK47s in trucks of UN food. Stopping them from entering like israel did in the early weeks of their assault, is a collective punishment in the worse traditions of the nazis.

    The young boys crying seen next to the decapitated bodies of their mothers whilst israeli soldiers look on are going to be rocketeers in 10 years.

    Did you wonder why noone in Hamas is listening? If the jews within the warsaw ghetto had been given the vote, and their choice was betweek a group which had tried for years to talk and appease the nazis without success, or between a small radical group which promised to smuggle weapons and fight a guerilla war regardless of consequences, which would they have chosen? Israel missed its chance to deal with moderates and is stuck.
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    ive met you, can i ask that question ?

    and i found out you were going out with a lass that was in my year...small world
  19. Conway

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    Joe's also overlooking the fact that the creation of Hamas and groups like it is a direct response to the Israeli treatment of Palestinians during the occupation...

    The Israeli government created groups like Hamas through their ruthless oppression and their "Iron Fist" policy towards the occupied lands.

    Neither side has any right to act the innocent and wounded party in this conflict, but as far as Hamas being in power goes, the Israeli government only has themselves to blame.
  20. forks

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    does the sight of an orthodox rabbi burning his Israeli passport outside the embassy supported by another dozen Rabbis give you ANY pause for thought? or are you so blinded by your sense of victimhood that you cannot see what is happening?

    what do you call the herding of innocent women and children into a building and then bombing it, then preventing anyone going near the children left clinging to their dead mothers bodies for four days? I would call that execution of the innocent

    Hamas was elected. You may not like that but it's true.

    Gaza has been a prison since the Israeli pull out. It was decided it was better just to wall them in rather than continue to try to keep Israeli soldiers in harms way inside the occupied palestinian land. Home made rockets were a predictable result of this policy.

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