m/jackson vote

He does live in his own little world tho.

I'm not saying he's NOT a monster though... but let the courts decide. Prosecution have to prove "beyond reasonable doubt" that he did it which might not be easy to do

maybe but that's not the same thing at all.

Does he know right from wrong is the question, are you saying he doesn't Joe????

Mentally disturbed doesn't mean you run round killing people with an icecream scooop or that you have the mental age of a 9 year old, it means you have problems!!!

Which he blatantly does, if you want phsyical evidence look @ his face, if you logical evidence look at his house, the company he keeps, the way he acts.... He is blatantly mentally disturbed!

And of course he wont use it in his defence, that would suggest he's done something wrong, the man can't even admit to have drastic cosmetic surgery... He's ahardly going to admit to an illness.

Si come back down to earth mate

Well something goin to happen to him one day

I'm saying he may not, you'd be an idiot to state otherwise....

He wasn't brought up in a conventional way, he is treated like a god, he has a shit load of psychological problems, his idea of right fromk wrong could be drastically different to ours... or are you contesting this?

His legal team have already discredited the accusers.... I'd say unless they have concrete proof it'll be near impossible to make anything stick.

I doubt they'll settle out of court either - I doubt his career/empire could survive a second out of court settlement.

don't patronise me you young whippersnapper, I know a lot more about mental illnesses than you give me credit for and a lot more than you do obviously.... nothing you say there has got ANYTHING to do with mental illnesses. He could be 100% sane, and probably is, and still do all that!

or are you simply saying that people doing things out of the norm means they have mental problems because that's what it looks like to me!

i get your point dude, and i finally get joes point,

i know a bit about mental illness & the way in which mj acts indicates that he has some sort of mental illness....

for someone to be come across as being so full of self hate that they want to change their skin colour & features to such a drastic effect certainly appears that their are some under lying issues there....it wud certainly be a form of mental illness whether it be depression or another form...the reasons behind his plastic surgery may be his subconsious coming through to his consious...either way it's still a form of mental illness that he appears to have!!!

he won't use this as part of his defense tho cos they may put him in a mental home...

Amazing what you can pick up from watching Fraiser

Don't patronise me you expired hippy... With age should come wisdom, however 30 years of excesive drug abuse leaves its toll.

I listed several factors which could lead to mental problems, if you are infact disputing this - then those drugs have fried your brain my dear tree hugger... If a child is abuse this can cause mental problems, if someone is treated like a god it can cause mental problems, there are a million factors which can lead to mental problems...

Please mr amateur psychologist, define mentally disturbed for me.

Are you trying to say that Michael Jackson is normal?

it on;y took a banning, 2 near fights, and 500 odd posts

fraiser is a quality prog but i also have an interest in psychology!!!

i get there in the end tho and i have learnt my lesson well

sadly I haven't I'm still as cocky as ever

hah! I've been abusing drugs for a lot less than you have so

I've never said that MJ doesn't have mental problems, he may well do....he's clearly unbalanced and has a very skewed perspective of reality but that is not the same as saying he has a clinical mental problem.... but you can somehow diagnose him at distance of 8,000 miles can you???

So what is it he's got exactly?? There are dozens of different mental conditions I can think of off the top of my head, and not many make you think that child sex abuse is ok!

To all these amatuer psychologists out there saying poor thing, he's had a warped upbringing, what else can you expect, he's just a child himself, I say bollocks.... he knows right from wrong!

i'll just agree with u next time, it will save alot of time


if someone asks my opinion of u, i'll just reply joe, hes a top lad, end of


*voice inside my head is shouting, attack attack*

but shall just walk away

it's the best way, disagreeing with Joe is usually a monumental waste of time and effort

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How is he going to get a fair trial tho???:spangled: