m/jackson vote

Nah was no need to say that about him. Ian was just making his opinion about jacko. Then Joe made a bad remark to Ian about him & his daughter their was no need 4 it.

im not even gonig to waste my time explaining it to you too

Yeah cuz he been doing dodgy stuff with kids and i think it's time he had to be stopped.

Good i dont need it explaning.

how dumb are some people...

the point was just as offensive and unsubstatiated as his comments about mj.

I would never accuse someone of being a paedo unless I knew it was fact - I was trying to suggest that ian does the same.

but obviously you do, your as narrow minded and stupid as iany-e!

Woooooo now hang on a sec I just having my opinion i think Jackson guilty just by what he done in his past.

which was also never proved

as suspicious as it looks, with the big pay-off and that

cheers mate, glad 2 see someones not stukk up there arses like kerry, buy me this daddy, buy me that daddy, fukk off please, u fukkin numb nut, bet ure impressed that i can spell numb

Jacko has never been convicted of anything. However, one thing which he has done has made me dislike him. He does not allow his children to see their Mother (granted, she agreed to this), and does not think they need a mother. This is total bullshit in my opinion.

How can you dislike him for this, this isn't down to him being bitter - this down to him being fucked in the head... I feel pity for the man... with all his money, fame and prosperity he leads a terrible life.

he needs help.

errrrr uve just shot ureself in the foot again like,

Your too dumb to debate with..

I'm sorry ian I give up yourr ithick as pig shit.

I also feel great pity for the man. Maybe dislike was the wrong word. Disbelief is probably more fitting. Disbelief that despite what his closest friends tell him, he does not listen. Uri Geller warned him that he was on course for another sex allegation - he did not listen. Fame seems to have incased him in a bubble. Watched an interesting interview with one of his friends (don't know if they are still friends) Rabbi Shmuley Boteach on CNN the other day. He argued that after the last sex allegations passed, Jackson seemed to take no advice from anybody and saw himself as virtually immune to the law of anything; whether it be from state law, natures law (needing a mother), or whatever.

thats even better than hen my own mother desribes me.

I read on another board that mj has known about these allegations for months - however dunno what this is based on.... Don't think so much he see's himself above the law, more he's oblivious to the law he lives in this fantasy world he's created.

sorry mate just feel like I'm banging my head off a wall

Many celebrties, and especially Jackson IMO see themselves as Gods. Simple fact is, humans can't be Gods, and when the public expects them to be gods, they must conceal or dismiss their humanity in an effort not to appear to be ordinary. Maybe this is why so many people enjoy the downfall of a star?

So basically when ppl want to talk to Jackson it goes in 1 ear and out the other. He needs help if he doesn't get it well then things will just get worse 4 the maniac.

Yes, it seems that way. He needs a wake up call, and maybe this could be it. It is time for "ordinary" people as well as our celebrities to understand that we all have to live by rules. I don't think Jackson realises this yet.