Media bias

Inflated Lebanese death tolls (notice the "Lebanon says"), 2 lines commited to Hizbullah atacks - about 150 lines devoted to Israel attacks.

Reuters news agency put it around the 700 mark, AFP news agency is around the 550 mark, Israel's was around the 500 mark.

Non of these account for how many of the dead were Hizbullah fighters (Except Israel) which is strange when all occidental news agencies report how many Israeli troops - Hizbullah kill.

Buit this makes sense when we consider that Hizbullah are noble warriors while the IDF are baby killers

Israel claim that 300+ militants have been killed (of a 2,500 strong force).

2 out of 150 lines is not 25%, 0 out of 6 stories is not 25%.

about 10 times... they kill one Israeli we kill 10 Lebanese, they take out 1 building we take out 10...

maybe israel are been shown in a bad light because they are the ones in the wrong for using excessive force?




*edited as id just woke up and that made no sense

fair point TBH

how do you figure that one out?

Hizbullah fire rockets form buildings endangering the lives of the civilians within them.

Israel respond in the only way they can (if they are to put an end to the attacks).

Civilians are killed along with militants.

The militants are just as guilty as the IDF... Israel didn't choose to bomb the buildings - they were forced to.

The story is not as black and white as you paint.

in the wrong?

How else do you respond to an attack on your country?

The media focus should lie on Lebanon, however, when the media is critical of Israel, in that same breath, it should also be critical of Hizbullah... There would be no destruction without Hizbullah, there would be no civilian causalities without Hizbullah, there would be no war without Hizbullah.

This is not reflected in the media... Instead we are told that Israels response is disproportionate... they fail to mention the missiles being fired form civilian structures, they fail to report the emails sent from UN observation posts stating that Hibzullah was drawing Israeli fire upon the building, they fail to mention the political under tones to the crisis... they fail to mention a lot.

This isn’t a case of Israel bombing 10 buildings, this is a case of Israel bombing 10 buildings that Hizbullah have used to launch attacks on Israel… Therefore the media coverage should not be 10:1 – it should be equal.

I was getting ready to launch a 9 paragraph response - until I read your closer

Shabbat shalom,

First of all Andy if you’re going to make authoritive claims on the civilian:militant ratio, I request that you cite your sources so that the discourse can remain in the factual dimension.

Hizbullah have been stock piling thousands of ballistic missiles since Israel and Lebanon established peace, their militants have undergone extensive military training (courtesy of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard), a complex offensive subterranean military infrastructure was created from which Hizbullah could slaughter Israeli civilians, and years of planning were devoted to formation of a brutal and unprovoked offensive on Israeli soil.

I’d like for you to educate me on how Israel:

Has created the death of Israeli citizens – Israel is defending itself from an invading aggressor
Prevented the Lebanese government from disarming Hizbullah – the same government that was unable/unwilling to disarm them in 6 years

What are you proposing as an alternative?

Andy lets review the history AGAIN:
- Israel were at peace with Lebanon
- Israel pulled out of the Lebanon
- Lebanon are told they must disarm Hizbullah
- Hizbullah are not only permitted to remain active they were given powerful government positions
- Hizbullah prepared themselves for war with Israel
- Hizbullah stock pile masses of weapons
- Hizbullah train their militants to an incredible standard
- Hizbullah create an offensive Israeli assult machine (which insuldes bunkers, missle launch pads, tunnels, weapons, militants, propagandists, etc)
- Hizbullah invade Israel

Yet you’re not of the mind that Hizbullah should disarm, instead you believe that Israel should stop defending itself in the hope that Hizbullah will stop their offensive?

What have you been smoking.

Hizbullah had no reason to attack Israel; they waited until they were at a powerful enough to position to inflict damaging blows upon Israel, then they struck, if Israel were to lay down their arms now – what is there to prevent Hizbullah from repeating history?

The other thing that astonishes me is that you think the death 300 Hizbullah militants is unsuccessful… anti-Zionism offends me but terrorist sympathy is disgusting.

am i the only person who actually agrees with joe here? i've always been pro-israel but i cant see how hizbullah can be defended... israel have the right to defend themselves, there are countless other conflicts around the globe that go largely ignored with higher civilian death tolls yet israel get almost unanimously criticised for defending themselves from a dangerous, passionate and organised enemy who are gaining more international sympathy for their cause when in reality they are nothing but fundamentalist terrorists. :spangled:

nah smog, im all for the invasion, so long as its hizbullah that are getting creamed and not innocent lebanse

sounds about right to me... of course civilians will unfortunately get caught up but israel seem to be in a real lose-lose situation.