middle east

What the hell is the Isreali plight?

Taken from Ha'retz:

"From the start of the intifada in October 2000 through this month, Israeli security forces have killed at least 1,722 Palestinians in the territories who were not involved in the fighting, including 563 minors."

Israel does not need to attract attention, it is supported, assisted and armed by the worlds only superpower.

I am more than capable of differentiating between terroism and the results of conflict and war, there are obvious parralels between Palestinian terrorism and Israeli state terrorism.

nice way to skip the point of that post dano.

That aside almost 1000 israeli's have been killed and far more would of been slaughtered had the IDF not caught so many suicide bombers.

enlighten me.

explain your point?

yep, good point.

Is it worth the effort? Unlikely.

then don't engage in debate with me... you're not my mentor, it isn't your duty to educate me... You made a statement - I asked you to substantiate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyHQFyO_fu4

If you cannot differentiate between attacks like the one above and exploding bombs on schools buses then you're a lost cause.

How else could Israel respond to rocket attacks from civilian areas?

do you think hizbullah have been dealt a mighty blow?

no

but I take it you still think they should be dealt one?
I just wonder how far you would be prepared to go in that aim

don't you?

They're mutually responsible for the death of 1000 Lebanese.

No as Iraq were 3 years into the war before they first used chemical weapons against Iranian troops and a year later against Kurds.

Bit of a weak analogy AndyR

Saddam intentionally gassed over 100,000 Iranians, Israel killed 1,000 Lebanese that Hizbu'llah were using as human shields.

Andy you prove the depths to which anti-Zionist are willing to stoop do besmirch the state of Israel.

How would 50 civilian deaths be acceptable? What on earth are you basing that on?

000-5000 missiles were fired into Israel - almost every one of these was fired from residential areas.

Yes.

Kind of hypocritical?

No.

just spoke to my sister who has friends in israel who i think live near the city of herlizya (sp?)... their whole community was moved away from the hizbullah rockets and the area almost deserted... their house survived but others didnt.

one beautiful little town my sister visited in april this year has been destroyed, not one building survived unscathed. her friends are currently in the military and are to be stationed in the golan heights, hopefully they will be ok.

i've not read about this though, just the lebanese and their suffering.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/762447.html

Hizbu'llah guilty of war carimes... although my gut tells me they quietly released this report to silence the anti-israel accusations.

as a tiny link, its not a feature story.

The main reports were released a while ago to massive media coverage... Amnesty would of released both reports at the same time if it were an unbiased organisation.