middle east

what do Hizbu'llah have to do with the WTC?

Hizbu'llah are muslim fundamentalist group who's raison detre is the destruction of the Jewish state... Surely you're not suggesting Israel are guilty because they exist?

That would be undeniable antisemitism.

The damage inflicted on Lebanon reflected the military tactics of Hizbu'llah, you cannot credit such extreme carnage to the kidnapping of 2 troops, the damage Lebanon suffered was a response to the missiles fired into Israel.

I don't think you realise the damage a Fajr missile does ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cERo8I4HZNQ ) entire cities were levelled from such attacks, Israel couldn't sit back and allow a terrorist organisation to reign down missiles on its people - you're living in a fantasy world.

Airstrikes were the only viable option and as you seem unable to present a feasible alternative I suggest we move on and you respond to my antisemitism post

Resolutions 106, 111, 127 – 1950-1960

During this period there were acts of genocide & expulsions from in Algeria, Brazil, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, China, Columbia, Congo, Cuba, Ethiopia, Ecuador, Guatemala, India, Indonesia, Iran, Kenya, Laos, Mexico, Morocco, North Korea, Pakistan Paraguay, USSR, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yugoslavia.

Israel: 3,000

China: 20,000,000
USSR: 16,000,000
Sudan: 1,000,000
Yugoslavia: 500,000
Brazil: 200,000
Algeria: 150,000
Columbia: 150,000
Vietnam: 90,000+
Burundi: 50,000
Madagascar 50,000
Burma: 15,000+
Iran: 10,000
Rwanda: 10,000

Less than 0.01% of genocide related deaths were carried out by Israel in this period, yet Israel received more resolutions than almost any other country listed above… During this early period this could be explained by the infancy of the state – countries born out of the Holocaust tend to capture the attention of the global community… However as we delve into the next decade this excuse loses validity.

Resolutions 171, 228, 237, 248, 250, 251, 250, 252, 256, 259, 262, 265, 267, 270, 271 1960 – 1970

Israel: 3,000

China: 10,000,000+
USSR: 2,000,000
Sudan: 1,000,000
Indonesia: 500,000
Cambodia: 360,000
Nigeria: 1,000,000
Yugoslavia: 500,000
Ethiopia: 150,000
Guatemala: 100,000
Laos: 100,000
Vietnam: 45,000
Angola: 40,000
Iran: 10,000

Less than 0.01% of genocide related deaths were carried out by Israel in this period, yet despite this miniscule percentage of genocide related deaths - Israel received 10% of all UN SC Resolutions between 1960-1970…. I believe that to be more than any other state over the course of the decade.

When states like the USSR and China are committing war crimes on scales that humble the Holocaust, one has to question why a state guilty of killing under 5,000 (of those that seek to destroy it; unlike much of the ethnic cleansing of the era) is attracting so much criticism… The only explanation to such hostility is antisemitism.

Many believe that the Holocaust put an end to global antisemitism, but they are mistaken. The holocaust assured that antisemites couldn’t credibly apply their hatred of the Jews to racial models – instead they invented a new form of antisemitism; Anti-Zionism.

Such unified hatred of a tiny state struggling for its survival cannot be attributed to anything other than a deeper prejudice.

I can't believe I was looking forward to your reply, what an anti-climax.

I took an hour out of my day to look up genocide statistics and UN Resolution dates so that I could construct a robust case against the UN.

Over 50,000,000 people killed in genocidal struggles over a 20 year period (of which Israel can claim just under 0.01%) and you claim the UN response was justified.... I find that insulting.

If Israel received 10% of UN resolutions during a period where it was responsible for under 0.01% of the casualties of genocide, an external stimulus has attracted a disproportionate rise in Israeli criticism of 99,900%.... Statistics, Resolutions and History all contradict what you're saying.

You're not promoting a weak argument; you're promoting a pathetic argument.

I find your stance utterly defenceless and I doubt we're going to see eye to eye on this so I suggest we end the discourse as I'm starting to find your posts repugnant.

get a life u sad man

go brush your teeth Jimi

could that lee kid want to sock joe's cock ANY more?!?!

joe - you should turn your trouser pockets inside out, they could hold them as u swan about town with a "yeah, he's my bitch" type face ...

stop fishing ya awld cunt

im not the one researching statistics and taking an hour off from work 2 try and proove sum1 wrong and go on like im gr8

( when i already know i am )

That is not what I presented; you weren't given a list of those killed in conflict, you were given examples of the calamitous acts of genocide being executed at the time the resolutions were drafted.

Genocide is the ultimate expression of human barbarity, it proceeds all synthetic suffering and is the most sinister example of mans dark capabilities... Organisations like the UN were established in the wake of WW2 to prevent such atrocities happening again and to aid those that fall victim to such cruelty.

I find your attitude disgusting, you're not only excusing the corrupt UN but in defending its corner you're protecting the executors of genocide that it "fails to notice".

It's not a fucking equation! Its common sense.

1,000,000 defenceless civilians ethnically cleansed following patterns of child kidnappings, mutilation, rape and torture should evoke a greater UN response than a country engaged in defensive operations.

Such utter nonsense.

The country was still in it's infancy during the dates I critiqued, thus the disproportionate international concern existed from Israel's conception.

There have been countries fighting far bloodier battles for much longer periods that repeatedly fall off the humanitarian radar.

If it were indeed about the concentration of war then the number of critical resolutions would be mirrored in those states at war with Israel. Despite being the victims of prolonged Arab invasions Israel has seen far more critical Resolutions than its neighbours.

You seem to think of the UN as some unified humanitarian peace making machine, when its a collective of the earths nations; state personalities are reflected in actions of the UN.

As there are many antisemitic UN states, there is a very strong antisemitic bias within the organisation.

Andy you haven't read the UN Resolutions, you have no background knowledge to the UN Resolutions - you've merely copy and pasted the list from some PSG and applied some half-baked humanitarian philosphy to it.

How can you sit there and tell me every UN resolution was justified when you haven't got a fucking clue what they say never mind whether they were just!