I think the west is starting to feel the pain of being unable to fight a non territorial, idealogical war - bombs and soldiers wont help us now. The only way forward is co-operation and tolerance. Its a difficult itssue - but i doubt this will be the last time something like this kicks off.
Have you not read my posts properly? I have never said all muslims are terrorists. If you look back I said it was a minority that spoil it - most muslims are honest people - but you cannot defend the actions of a handful of muppets dressed in fake bombs threatening more violence, and try and justify it by comparing them to joe public threatening to take your eyes out for being a pleb in the pub.
basically, i would like to know, would people preffer the worlds ccountries to be controlled by people like sadman or people like blair or even bush. I for one think, that if all people in control were like sadman, the world would be a lot shitter than it is now.
Do a handful of christians (bush and blair), spoil it for the rest of us then? Unfortunately, alot of what is being stirred up .... isnt being stirred for the right reasons - The last thing we need is for it to be ingrained into the minds of the prolitariate that muslims are evil. .... which is EXACTLY what is happening right now. The result of this will be more terrorism. This is all stuff that our glorious leaders have brought upon us all to suffer. Before september 11, did we live in this much fear or concern? Nope.
Its only going to get worst. The wars were a complete disaster, the taliban are still very active in Afghanistan, the Iraqi's are killing thousands of coalition troops... We can't win these conflicts on any grounds idealogically or physically. We are unable to pullout of either countries, instead we are caught in a downward spiral - coalition troops act as a catalyst for tensions. I can't see any light at the end of the tunnel. You only need to look at the extremist views of some of the posters on this messageboard to get an understanding of the deep hatred/fear of the muslim world... both sides seem unable to make any move towards accepting the other.
i've met many fine british muslims who are a credit to this country. the thick cunts in this thread should take a step back and look at what they are saying, muslims aren't the enemy and acting like bigoted morons wont solve anything. tossers.
But the whole point is that iraq is not now under control!!! Blair and bush went in with no plans for what was to happen when saddam was removed!!! now they have left the country in dissaray and the terroist factions which saddam had under control are now running wild..
How is the governing of Iraq a process which you can have any involvement in? You have no knowledge of the people You have no knowledge of the culture You have no knowledge of the economy You have no knowledge of the hostory How can you possibly attempt to assume what is good for a population when you know nothing about it? I think the way America is governed is sickening, they're responsible for the deaths of millions, a capitalist nation fuelled by monetary greed... Their history is full of imperialist invasions, many of their internal policies are inhumaine (the death penalty for example). Who are we to dictate the conditions of our neighbouring nations existence. Saddam may of been an evil dictator but the Bushs have far more blood on their hand.
You're missing the point mate, you cant just generalise things like that, you have to take each case individually. And so what if Saddam wasn't running the country properly? Who are the US and the UK to go and invade and take it over?? If anyone should decide about something like that it is the UN and the international community and the said we shouldnt invade Iraq! It is not our right to go and do that! There are loads of countries around the world where that is happening yet there is no economic gain for the US so they don't care! Look at what happened in Darfur!! Rwanda!!! Genocides!!!! BUT WHAT DID THE WEST DO?? F ALL!!!!!:evil: :evil: Don't give me this $hite about how we saved the Iraqi people!! we didn't invade Iraq to save the people we did it to get a stronger foothold in the middle east and more oil!!! The fact that you believe we did it to save the Iraqi people and still think that it was a good thing is an example how $hite newspapers like the Sun have an impact on the countries beliefs! Its DISGUSTING!! America is the greatest evil of this world END OF!!!!!
Sometimes I feel ppl on this forum are like broken records. No offence.. its just there are conversations that are exactly the same all the time. For god sake ( ) leave it..
I know its bad but it had to be done sooner or later, sadman or predecesors would have eventually start using dirty bombs all over the place and killing a lot more people not to mention making the areas uninahbitable for many years. I understand that war has been a total tits up, but something had to be done.
lol what the fuck is your contribution to this board? In 4 years you haven't voiced one opinion, you've posted 3000 messages - 1000 of which you sleazed, 1000 of which you sucked metaphorical cock and the other were a combination of smilies
Is that a quote from the Sun? Or perhaps is it something that the US spurted out and then later denied (oooh look, we've already gone and invaded the country, ooops, oh well, never mind eh)
saddam didn't have the ability to make dirty bombs... the israeli and us forces took out his nuclear capabilities decades ago.... the wmd issue was a proven fabrication of western governments, we were aware that there was no threat long before we invaded.
no its my opinion, and thats it, nothing is going to change it. I don't care whether you like it or not, i just love arguing