Nastiest Drug !!!

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  1. *missy*

    *missy* Registered User

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    crack without a doubt. :down:

    it is the worst drug in the world, it makes u feel like god and that u can do anything and not get caught. people get killed on it etc and then to get off it ppl hav to start on heroin.

    and then u get all the crack houses and illegal sex trade, like in middlesbrough. and no offence to ppl who from there or live there but look wot its like down there.

    thankfully aint much up here but down there is now all gun crime associated with crack :down:
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    No I'm not in the medical profession but either way, it looks like I was right. Unlucky DJBaz.
  3. Rossy

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    Well if it's so important you won't mind me setting people straight about it then?

    When people say something as blatently false as coke is used in hospitals as a general/local anesthetic I can't help but point that it isn't. It's statemants like the above which can turn out dangerous and comes from the mouths of idiots.
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    Utter, utter balls. There is more risk of death in eating peanuts, and the long term consequences of taking pills, though not established, and though human neurotoxicity is possible, is unlikely to be severe, compared to things like meth, which is 20 times the neurotoxin of MDMA, and even cigarettes and alcohol, which are neurotoxic too.

    Look at a drug like heroin - mainlining heroin reduces your life expectancy to around 5-10 years after you start taking it. Look at crack, look at crystal meth. These are the drugs that work so hard on the pleasure response mechanisms, and cause so much damage in the process ( maybe not directly in the case of Heroin, but the whole process does damage ), that they really do little but destroy lives.

    Then we have some of the more nasty dissociative hallucinogens, like PCP. Apart from neurotoxicity, we have extreme aggression, paranoia, and clouded judgment, combined with immunity to pain.

    I would say that MDMA, used with restraint ( ie in small ish doses, for occasional clubbing ), is one of the safest drugs used in this context - definitely a lot safer in this scenario than getting pissed instead ( depending on your definition of pissed of course ).

    Harry
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    hate to say it rossy mate, but they do use cocaine HCL as an eye anaesthetic.

    Harry
  6. Rossy

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    Do you have a half respectable source that indicates that it's still used medicinally in the UK today for those purposes? I can't find anything after a quick search on google.

    I'd imagine there are far safer, more effective and cheaper means of doing this since 1884.
  7. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    utter, utter balls :D

    This is bullshit, if you binge on pills in the same way louts binge on alcohol it is stupidly dangerous, this is a very ill-informed post from someone of your intellect harry ;)
  8. Congay

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    the ratio of people taking and dying from peanuts is much higher than taking / dying from pills so how is this balls JJ?
  9. B.O.B.

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    From The British Journal of Opthalmology (in 2002):

    "Medical and nursing staff need to be aware of the potential for intranasal cocaine to precipitate acute angle closure glaucoma (AACG)."

    http://bjo.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/86/11/1312
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    Most people who die from peanuts will either choke on them (ie could have been anything small) or are allergic to peanuts (ie it will only affect certain people). Therefore to your average joe public who chews properly and isn't allergic to them, peanuts are completely safe. The same can't be said for any drug.
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    heather Balder than Pike!

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    erm...havent experienced that much to be honest, but from what i have, id go with MDMA crystals, because i seem to react very badly to them and find myself chucking up my stomach lining for the next 2 hrs. But that is personally the nastiest drug for me.

    (not too keen on fluoxitine either and refuse point blank to take it...shhh) :secret:
  12. Congay

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    If the average Joe who took a pill drank water and acted sensibly then im sure about 50% of all pill deaths would be wiped out.

    Isnt this the same argument?
  13. Freddy Flintoff

    Freddy Flintoff WE MISS YOU JOHN

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    Look drugs are fun no doubt...

    Drugs can kill - no doubt

    Drugs fuck u up in later life - No doubt

    Its up to the person if they wanna take them but they should know the facts... I used to do drugs but i relised i have a better tinme without and they fuck with your mind, thats the whole point of drugs, they fuck with your mind and i dont liek that idea, but i have nothing against people who do and these arguments are dafr

    E is NOT safe but neither is drinking, driving etc etc
  14. B.O.B.

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    Not at all. The person who choked on the peanut, it could have been any small object. The fact that it was a peanut is fairly irrelevant. The person who dies from a pill will sometimes die as a direct result of the chemical make-up of the pill (MDMA or otherwise).

    I'm not saying that more people don't die from peanuts, just that the reason behind it is totally different.
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    Smack has got to be the worst, i would neevr try it though.
  16. Freddy Flintoff

    Freddy Flintoff WE MISS YOU JOHN

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    Its not MDMA thats kills you dont know what shit they put in pills, its normally the other shit they put in that has a bad reaction....

    Pill deaths have been WAY up over the l;ast few years cos of people trying to make more profit from them
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    LOL pike you've taken one too many pills yet. Please show me the global statistics for peanut consumption and peanut related deaths.

    It doesnt fucking exist... how can you work out a ratio when you dont have the statistics?!?!?!?

    More people may die from choking on peanuts (and I'd love to see statistics to prove this) but that isnt a ratio.

    Go back to school.
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    A peanut doesnt have any damaging side effects?
  19. Rossy

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    That does not indicate that cocaine is actually used for medicinal purposes in the UK though. It seems to be a study where I could imagine a licence would be easier to aquire as opposed to supplying some random hospital with coke.

    I can't see anything about it on erowid and I'd imagine that if it is used at all, that would be vary rarely and that a licence to use it would be hard to aquire (i.e research purposes).

    Either way it's still not as if coke (a stimulant) is used to knock you out or numb your gums at the dentist as indicated earlier in the thread.
  20. Congay

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    it does if i flick it in your eye

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