Obesity!!!!

Agreed, it's not always because people eat too much. But in the cases where it is, people should take responsibility for it. One of the things most of us like about living in a capitalist society is that we have choice. We can't then blame someone else when we make the wrong choice.

But what you eat is your responsibilty! I fail to understand how you can blame the government for it. How the hell can the government determine what you eat, without seriously limiting the choices we have? Please see my above comment on the issue of choice. You can't have it both ways.

FAO Liberal Brid

How can you blame the goverment for rising obesity rates in this country???

Some of your arguments are pathetic!! Drop subjects from School to make more time for exercise?? Why? wont this take away from a well rounded education? When i was at school i stopped PE out of choice at 16, i could have done it in sixth form but i realy didnt want to. The school see you as old enough to be able to make your own decisions as to wether you want to do it.

Making Gyms cheaper so more peoplecan afford them??? TOTAL CRAP!!! what stops people putting on there trainers and running a mile everyday?? If anyone can do this what makes you think that gyms beeing cheaper will make any difference??

As for the Goverment letting Compnays like McDonalds peddle their easily chewable liquid shit, again WHY NOT?? You dont have to go in?? When i see an advert for a big mac i dont drive to the nearest Mcdonalds to buy one??


Its all about personal choice, The goverment dont put burgers into peoples mouths.......

What about passive smoking!!!

These smokers are killing ME!!!!

Stop going to places where people smoke, and let the establishment know that is why you have stopped going. If enough people did this, more places would be anti-smoking. Yes, it would mean a distinct lack of social life until enough people did it, but if you were really concerned enough about your health, you would.

Idealistic answer I know, but it would work. If enough people cared, venues would lose profit and start to listen. Unfortunately, not enough people care.

surley its the parents responsiblity to eduacte their children regarding healthy eating when they are younger.

and the person who fails to see that junk food is bad for them before they make the choice to eat it must be either very nieve or very stupid.

i choose to eat (kinda) healthily and not to eat junk foods...

its not the government thats telling me that or any1 else for that matter, i choose to.

surely not letting people eat what they choose is some form of censorship (or that kinda thing)?

There are places you can buy relatively healthy food at reasonable prices, you just have to look a bit harder. Using M&S against Greggs is hardly a just comparison. The vast majority of sandwich shops will make you something good at a reasonable price, and they are far more filling than a pasty. Just looking down Northumberland Street is a little lazy. Which is part of the problem. No-one can be arsed to think or act for themselves, and just choose the easy option.

just a side point, if you saw an morbidly obese person, you'd probably look at them an judge them for letting themselves get into that mess, perhaps even laugh about them... but if you saw a smoker who had lung cancer then you'd feel sorry for them, not contempt...

why are the two situations any different?

they are both diseases with known risk factors that people have ignored and still participated in the negative behaviour.

Good point - maybe its because smoking is seen as an addiction, whereas serious over-eating isn't? It's just social conditioning really.

Anyway - I'm off for a burger.

A lot forward thinking cities ban smoking in public places.

I am sure if Red Ken or Norris win the London mayoral race, London will become a no smoking in public places city.

I strongly disagree with this. It should be up to the venue owners to decide whether people can smoke there, unless you are going to make it totally illegal. As I said before, if enough people want no-smoking places, they would soon appear. Ah, the joys of capitalism.

We as nation either care about health or we just let folks get on with it.

We cant take the Big Mac out the hand & then let them smoke 20 benny & hedges.

Personally, I think smoking should be banned full stop

Educate people as much as we can, then let them get on with it once they have as many facts to hand as possible.

I agree.

Re: Philosophy

YES