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  1. trance_fan

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    I think it's appalling. Not only for the costs involved but even worse the fact that you are tracked wherever you drive. Once again though it's just going to screw the working class while the rich still get to drive around in their gas guzzlers totally not caring about the increase in price as it will make no difference to them at all. These charges should be proportionate to peoples income. Also the very cheek of a report that said "motorists should pay to use the roads" - what? Just another case of motorists being the easy target and getting screwed. If the government is adamant about it then they will probably just ignore the petition anyway.

    When are they going to get it into their narrow minded heads that public transport is not a feasible option for everyone, and often not the most cost effective option? For example, on my placement year I worked in team valley, a 14 mile round trip in the car - thats 70 miles a week - just shy of £10 worth of petrol (300 miles to a tank @ £40). By bus it would cost around £4 a day (probably a bit more actually) - thats say £20 a week. My total petrol usage is around that, only half of which was used for commuting. On top of that, theres the fact that there isn't a direct service from my house to Team Valley, so it would take god knows how long to get there. Then theres a long walk. Then theres the days when it's pissing it down. Hmm...hardly seems like a tough decision.

    Then theres the fact that people rely on cars for seeing friends and family where again, public transport isn't a feasible option.

    As for the point made about being your own fault for booking a train journey too late...that is a shite argument. Often when I go places on a train, eg to see mates at uni in other cities...it's a few days notice at most. Trains are very expensive - fact. Why should it cost less 2 weeks in advance than 2 days? if anything you would think it would be the opposite to get people on the train. Thats like having to pay more for your summer hols for a last minute deal for hols that havn't been sold....stupid.
  2. Phil Mitchell

    Phil Mitchell check me a dollar brer?

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
  3. French William

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    Your snivelling whingy post didn't address environmental issues.
  4. B.O.B.

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    I use public transport every day. It usually takes me around 50 minutes to go six miles (though about 20 of this is walking to and from tube stations). On occasion it takes up to an hour and a half, which is the amount of time it took when I commuted between Newcastle and Leeds by car (90 miles).

    In London you really don't have much choice, as the traffic is usually horrendous and parking is impossible. I could drive to work if I chose to, as we have parking at my office. It would take about the same amount of time to drive as it does on the tube, and cost slightly less. It's for environmental reasons that I don't.
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    okay, i'll cut you some slack due to your mitigating circumstances, and because its the new year. :wink:
  6. trance_fan

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    I hope you realize I was playing up to your expectations ;)
  7. Phil Mitchell

    Phil Mitchell check me a dollar brer?

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    havent any of you lot heard of travel passes? they are the way forward

    my journey to work without a pass is £9 a day but with a pass its £15 a week

    get involved
  8. BRID

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    You dont solve environmental issues by making all forms of transportation utterly unviable for most mere mortals.

    people would use these services if it wasnt almost the same price to just get in a cheap car and drive - or wasnt cheaper full stop.

    Anyways - theres more pressing issues at hand before we once again go punishing ordinary hard working individuals for wanting to make a living if we want to reduce pollution ..... Cut off pollution at the source, instead of convincing people they are 'at wrong' for just using what is available to them.
  9. trance_fan

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  10. B.O.B.

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    Make cars illegal. :p

    What do you mean 'cut off pollution at the source'? Cars are a source of pollution! It's all about taking personal responsibility.
  11. BRID

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    I never said i did, i said 'if you were that way inclined' :D
  12. BRID

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    I'd look at the bigger picture, rather than just treating the symptoms of the problem - which is too many people using cars.

    Unfortunately, and i know im always on about it, but TAX is not the answer. its as clear as day to anyone other than the looney left minorities that just slapping a new tax on anything that is the current 'big issue' has not and will not solve the problem - all it creates is anger and squeezes people further and further and further.

    Personally i'd love to ditch my car and not have to worry about all the costs involved with it. I certaintly dont find thousand and thousand of pounds leaving my wallet to pay for services, repairs and insurance alot of fun .... If i knew i could get a train anywhere, and that it was cheap and fast to do so .... i WOULD!

    Unfortunately it cost 230 quid a month for the 'pleasure' of standing up on a train each day for 2 hours to get to work each way, and then back ..... Or it was 200 quid to drive an admittedly fuel guzzling car, and took half the time, and i had my own space and the ability to blast music at any volume. .... Eventually i just bit the bullet and paid for a car.

    If it was half the price, which it probably could be (at least) if things werent so bad as they were now ... i would have probably stayed on the trains, or found it really hard to justify owning a car.

    Seriously, all the places ive been to in the world utterly urinate on the UK in terms of their transport systems.
  13. ManofScience

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    most peoples concerns seem to be about travelling to work - how about if they had this scheme just in place during rush hours? :lol:

    i bus it to work everyday with a bus pass, it costs about the same as if i used a car (petrol costs)

    the need to make up their mind whether they want quieter roads OR save the environment
  14. ManofScience

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    the UK is majorly suffering from lack of care for decades.

    Railways falling apart, roads a mess - now, have u seen the upset over conditions soldiers are having to live in?

    too many scroungers in this country, living off the state, demanding what they THINK they're owed, using up all the money... there's a big crash coming soon, life as we know it will change drastically
  15. BRID

    BRID Has name in red. Staff

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    Bring it on i say.

    I wouldnt mind seeing some actual investment in 'real' things for once, as opposed to things you conveniently cant measure, or can spin into oblivion.

    Build some roads, some railway lines, reduce prices ....
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    Public transport is for scum.
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    I don't even know why people are worrying about global warming as much as they are, in 50 years time we wont even be using fossil fuels. Fusion will give us an endless power supply for anything we want.
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    the UK has one of the largest road building schemes in Europe - we don't need more roads, predict and provide has got us to where we are now.. genius idea..

    railways yes, but they are astronomical in cost, not to mention the amount of CPO's you have to get to clear the land either side..

    reduce prices? so who's going to build this wonder system?

    pfi? ;)
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    If we don't have a better and cheaper power source in 50 years time I'll eat me hat.
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    Plus we'll be living on Mars by then.:p

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