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Surgical excision, occasionally high dose chemo and radiotherapy. Not fruit nuts. Not prayer. GOD MUST BE APPEASED.



my mother has had cancer twice and is now just as healthy as she was b4 either of teh cancers struck

Surgical excision, occasionally high dose chemo and radiotherapy. Not fruit nuts. Not prayer. GOD MUST BE APPEASED.



my mother has had cancer twice and is now just as healthy as she was b4 either of teh cancers struck

I was merely giving you examples of the secular worlds corruption of Africa, condoms are the least of their worries.

You're a fascist mate, it is not your place to interfere in cultures external to your own - in Judaism it is the biggest assur to not save a life... But that is my beliefs - its not my place to force a parent to permit their child to have a blood transfusion.

Immature sentences like "glorified sacrifice" expose the illconcieved arguments you present, I suggest you talk to mothers who've lost their children after denying them a transfusion.... I would like to see if you'd hurl the same insults at them after hearing their stories.

Non of those cure cancer andy, one of the strongest agents for defeating any illness (cancer included) is the power of the mind... if someone believes that eating seeds and praying could make them better - no doctor would deny them this placebo.

Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't a result of homophobia

Yiftach's daughter was sent away, very few jewish scholars believe her to of been phsyically sacrificed.

Andy you're arrogant and disrespectful because you lack the maturity to engage in a civil debate, with time you'll probably look back on threads like this and cringe.

Sorry to hear that Jimi.

but cutting something out isn't a cure... if I get an infected finger and they chop it off, they've not cured my finger - they've removed it.

there we go we hav lift off,


andy is now a fachist becasue he disagrees with joe!

ha ha predicible


i hav

4-12 odds that he will call him anti-semetic next

1-2 odd thats he will call sum1 a nazi by 21:00

WHO WANTS SOME OF THIS ACTION pm's

thought you were going to avoid having a pop at me Jimi?

its the same desired effect tho when there isnt a outrite cure

the docs cut stuff of my mother she no longer has cancer id say pretty much they hav cured it like

no im avoid disagreeing with u as thats much worse and wont get into a politcal debate about u with anything


coz the 4 letter n word will come out and play

id rather just amuse myself

thats all i was saying Jimi, there isn't a cure.

Someone can have the cancer cut out and it can return (as i guess happened with your mother)... if someone thinks eating seeds will help in stopping it return - most doctors would recommend she ate seeds.

why join in then?

I called andy fascist cos he wants to force others to live by his beliefs (essentially what fascism is)... it had nothing to do with judaism or antisemitism.

We don't get on leave it at that mate... we made the board shit last time we rucked

then what about chemotheripy and radiothreipy not OUTRITE cures but do help,

I would also put my faith in the surgeon... but I wouldn't force others to live by beliefs as thats fascism.

For a scientist you have a hard job understanding what cure means.

the 'truth' about religion can neither be proved or disproved since it is a matter of the suspension of disbelief.

I personally find it impossible to believe that the universe was created by a being who then created a planet in one tiny corner of it in order to populate it with sentient beings who'se purpose was to worship him and lead lives in accordance with his laws which he gave to one man 3500 years ago in a language open to interpretation. Failure to follow these imprecise laws would lead to eternal torture by another subsidiary of the god franchise whose sole purpose is to shit on the omnipotent creator.
It seems to me to be just as unlikely as Santa (sorry kids)

I really don't mind anyone believing anything they like. . but.
The truth is peoples beliefs inform their actions and if this country was to return to a 16th century christianity or a 21st century Islam then the results for me personally could be dire. We do not live in a vacuum and if the so called morality of the bible with it's violence and hate were to be the basis of life here instead of enlightenment rationality then we would have justice based on an eye for an eye and rational debate stifled because of blasphemy and women and gays persecuted and all the rest of it. I'm a liberal. I believe in live and let live. religious people do seem to want to tell me what I can and cannot do. If I want to see Jerry Springer the Opera I think I should be allowed to. If they don't want to, fine. But they seem to want me to be banned from it. Or banned from taking the piss out of their beliefs. They can take the piss out of mine if they like why not the other way round?

The opposition of science and religion is a false because they are at the fundamental level both unproveable. No one is ever likely to discover a cast iron, proveable, experimentally verifiable theory of the origin of the universe or the nature of matter and energy, only likelyhoods. and no one is ever likely to disprove the existence of god.

As Brid says we NEED to believe in something and so it is likely that most humans will do so be it God or Allah or Shiva or Jupiter or Ra. And others will not.

Just don't follow on from that with persecutions of those who believe differently is all I ask.

can u tell me what cure means please joe?

both occassionally kill cancer cells, but neither are guaranteed cure and the cancer usually returns at a later stage of the victims life.

We don't have a cure for cancer a treatment and cure are not one and the same.

certainly jim.

A cure is the restoration of health, if this restoration is temporary then the illness hasn't been cured.

so basicly that statement is saying 2 me that, my mother has temporary restoration as there is no cure for cancer jsut prolonged treatment

but what if it doesent come back, does that mean she was cured or just lucky?

but some of us dont belive in luck so what wud it be called then

For the first time in months I agree with most of that.

Other than your anti-religion rant, the moral backbone of occidental society is the bible... And while it has been corrupted by man on numerous occassions it has also provided the conscience which allowed man to overcome such perversions.

and if gods so clever why does a being created in his (perfect) image get cancer in the first place? It's not very sporting of him to create a clone and then insert a susceptibility to a disease which will cause a painful and lingering death is it

that means when they cut the cancer out it was successful, its not a cure though as it was cut out.

but this is all etymology which bores the arse off me...