Should Asians with Backpacks expect to be stopped and searched in major citys?

msn sir joe!! xxx

As much as some of the points in this thread are incorect and stupid they are genuine concers for alot of people .
I Dont think the 1st question to be unresonable
I was supposed to be in london on the day of the 1st bombings but went two days later , i will also be there next thursday
I Dont think its unresonable to ask that all asians with ruchsacks get stop and searched.
However some of the fooloish stuff in the thread is mindboggling .

you talk about 'asians/arabs' as they where pigs?

you can't stop and search in this way because it only incites the hatred, resulting in a provoked backlash from muslim communities..

imagine if british terrorists started blowing up targets in say, spain, and everytime you set foot in spain from now on you got searched, taken in or generally manhandled, simply for your dialect, skin colour or appearence. just because a small group of your nationals have a vendetta, however just or unjust against spain...

not very fair is it?

its over more than religion, its over money and western greed.

religion is an answer,an excuse, even a ticket, to solve or retribute the attrocities that the west has caused in muslim countries, not just in the last 5 years, but in the last century...

I have to say if I lived in another country where there were British people blowing stuff up, I would happily submit to being searched automatically, when the 'locals' weren't being.

That's not to say I advocate it here, as I think it would cause huge amounts of resentment and make the situation worse.

and the taunting, abuse and sneering?

one of our managers, an swiss educated, highly intelligent, atheist, INDIAN guy, living in sunderland, has, since the london attacks went off two weeks ago recieved daily threats on his life over his phone, had his windows bricked, his car tyres slashed and suffered constant abuse walking around his neighbourhood..

he is now petrified to come to work, leaving his girlfriend behind in his flat.

would you happily submit to that too?

Not at all. One of the most shameful things that has come out of this has been the backlash against asians in this country by narrow minded thugs. That is a whole different thing to having your bag searched by the police.

It would only incite racial tension.

It would merely divert the problem, explosives in the socks, hijacks, bombs in public places... Its a problem that can't be stopped by persecuting one of the largest communities in the UK.

Sniffer dogs at every tube station would be a far more practicle short term solution.

Nice idea, but I seriously doubt there are anywhere near enough sniffer dogs to do it. They can only work for about twenty minute stretches as far as I know, and there are just too many tube stations to cover. Plus take into account the amount of entrances some stations have, and how wide some of them are, and it's just impossible.

Not really.

The police used to stop search black youths at every opertunity which lead to riots and huge cultural divides in the UK.

Searching all asians would result in the same problems.

If you were to alienate the asian community further it would only worsen the current situation.

If you read my previous post you'll see I said I wouldn't advocate it here, just that I personally wouldn't mind if I was in that situation.

You have to go through turnstyles to get onto most tubes.

Intelligence is the only real solution... Pulling all asians in my eyes is madness.

sorry that wasnt a dig

i think the two come hand in hand, they it would lead to the indescriminate targetting of anyone who fitted the description of anglo european, which would in turn incite local suspicion and wariness of british in their country...

And how many turnstiles are in each station? Still too many to have dogs cover each and every one.

I agree, intellligence is the only way forward at this stage.

I Always value your opinion , but considering whats just happened its go to be done .

I really don't think this is a racist point....you get searched going on to planes, all the fish is proposing is that we search higher risk people in cities - and, statistically, people with dark skin and backpacks are a higher risk than caucasians with backpacks.

I think it's a stupid idea, that would inflame racial tensions and make the whole thing thousands of times worse, but I don't think it's racist per se? :think:

its not racist... but it would result in huge racial tension.

even controling availability is a bit pointless, I could make a bomb if I wanted, explosives of all sizes can be made very very easily.

as you say intelligence and knowledge/dialogue is the only solution.