Should Israel smite down Hezbollah with a mighty blow?

I suggest you consult your history books, militants fleeing from Jordan (like the PLO and PFLP) set up a Palestinian quasi-state in southern Lebanon from which they launched frequent military campaigns against Israel.

Israel had no option but retaliation (in which they worked alongside the South Lebanon Army).

I'm sorry but in both cases militants entered Israel and attacked military posts.... Hamas is the PA so the Gaza attack is certainly a Palestinian/Gaza invasion.. Lebanon is more complex - but Israel hasn’t targeted Lebanese military installations - they've targeted Hizb'Ullah infrastructure.

Next generation?!?!? Hizb’Ullah hold powerful positions in government, control vast regions and are the most powerful force within Lebanon... They have massive public backing and the majority of the population supported the capturing of the troops.

I'm assuming you mean 242, the resolution clearly states that Israel are permitted to adjust their borders for defensive purposes.

A more appropriate resolution would be 1559, in which Lebanon are told they have to weed out the Hizb'Ullah militia... Instead of weeding them out Lebanon have given them political positions!!!

Ethnically cleansed?!?!?

Can you support such a sincere accusation? If you bothered to read unbiased writings on the pre-48 situation you'd realise that the majority of Arabs left of their own accord (neighbouring Arab nations requested they left until the conflict was over), Israel are guilty of transferring small numbers of Arabs - but this wasn't common practise (Israel left hundreds of thousands of Arabs to live in Israel - if they were practising ethnic cleansing why would they allow such large numbers to remain?)

Israel have never admitted to having nukes... lets deal with the facts we know.

And I'm suprised you support Irans desire for nukes when you know their intentions

I think israel should fight dirty now, use swordfish tactics. They kidnap 1 soldier from israel, the israely army kidanp 10.

And take out a school with a laser guided bomb!

a jewish terror organisation have already started capturing Palestnians

they already work on a ratio of 50 palestinians to 1 Israeli
and the airforce hit a school yesterday
they do this to make themselves secure
it's madness every action causes a reaction
the only difference is Israel has every conceivable modern weapon and the arabs have a few rockets, mortars and themselves.

I notice you skip my post and spew out more of your antizionist bullshit

I don't know if I can be bothered but here goes

I didn't say I supported it, I was just refering to the double standards where one state in the middle east is an "axis of evil" cos of WMD and another gets off scot free

sorry... my responses got mixed in with your post

Palestine has never existed, when the Ottoman Empire collapsed became the British Mandate (modern day Jordan and Israel/Palestine)... When the mandate was split Egypt, Syria, Lebanon & Jordan involved themselves with the conflict (each wanting to absorb the land of Israel/Palestine into their own borders).

The militants were foreign fighters usually representing the states they came from (although there were mujahideen)... These weren't Palestinian nationalists (as Palestinian identity hadn't yet been accepted - infact it had been rejected), the Palestinians were peasants that lacked military knowledge.

I actually support the notion of Israel returning to the pre-67 borders (with minor adjustments) so I'm not going to argue against a cause I support

The attacks had been planned months in advance, this was a clear attempt at provoking war... Israel has a superior military force but this shouldn't mean it can't use it on grounds of it being unfair?!?!?!?

Israel did not start this war... If I punch Mike Tyson in the face I'd expect him to beat the shit out of me.

You're living on another planet.

What do you mean play into the hands?

Hizbullah launched a full scale attack on Israel - how else can they respond?

Immobilizing a military force is one of the most successful ways of defeating your opponent, it’s why the French resistance took out rail netowrks and it’s the reason Israel are targeting transport systems.

You clearly have little knowledge on the subject you speak, Islamic fundamentalism isn't a result of poverty or injustice, its a reaction to the collapse of the traditional muslim society... Its called fundamentalism because they look back to the Islamic fundamentals.

Within Palestine these fundamentals are also mixed with nationalism.... but your claim is not based in reality and Hizbullah aren’t Palestinians.

But that’s not what happened, before the establishment of Israel, Palestine didn't exist... there was no geographical country named Palestine, for hundreds of years it had been a region within Islamic empires.

You talk of Palestine like it had been there for eternity.... There was no such thing as Palestinian borders, resolution 242 recognised that the initial occidental borders left the vulnerable nation (Israel) open to Arabic attacks.

Most of the Israeli Jews had been transferred you twirp! They'd been expelled by arab neighbours and had nowhere to go... Unlike their Arab neighbours Israel didn't ethnically cleanse a population - they allowed the Arabs to stay!!!!

I want some of what you've been injecting

That’s not conclusive proof of an active nuclear arsenal... A few documents smuggled out the country 20 years ago doesn't prove your allegations.

The status of a nation is determined by its objectives not its military technology

I don't know what I'm more sorry for, using the word twirp or getting all arsey with you... The whole racist state thing just boils my blood

bothered

It's unreal that Israel get away with so much, no other country gets away with it. It's about time the UK and the US stopped "urging them to show restraint" and issue a more serious threat.

many countries get away with far more than israal... just look at the death tolls of civilians in many countries that have gone pretty much ignored... i think joe mentioned china and sudan...

if you were surrounded by several corrupt nations that dont believe you have the right to exist im sure you would take drastic consequences at times... no one could blame you for being paranoid. the current situation is defensive.

israel was invaded by arab nations and has defended themselves impressively since its creation. israel needs an army as a deterrant... if they dont use it against armed islamic extremists advocating force and the destruction of israel then they will be in serious trouble.

however, i do not always support israel's heavy-handed tactics and think that at times they dont do themselves any favours, but they definately get unfairly accused as the agressors. but i am fully in support of their actions in the current situation, hizbullah and the like need teaching a big lesson.

What the fuck are you talking about?

35 million china
4 million congo
2 million sudan
2 million north korea

3000 Israel

Israel undergoes a full scale invasion which echoes all the hallmarks of '78 and you call for Israel to show restraint?!?!?!

You're off your tits mate, Israel is a peace seeking nation that has offered countless peace proposals (the camp david package for example: the right to return, £30 bn compensation to those that couldn't, West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, etc.) - Israel has no option but to respond to the relentless attacks on its borders.

i love it when people watch a 'special report' on sky news/cnn and think their an expert on the subject!

My favourites are the ones who read a paragraph of chomsky and believe they're the next Koffi Annan

A peace seeking nation that has just killed over 100 innocent civilians in less than a week.

Quite a peacefull bunch indeed.

Or people who are brainwashed by their religion/Government.

The death toll would be a lot lower if Hizbullah didn't launch missiles from family homes.

You seem very critical of Israel yet seem to be unable to speak out against hizbullah.

Who started the war?
Who uses human shields?
Who chooses target civilians over military installations?
Which country did Israel pull out of 6 years ago?

There's a reason why the G8, the arab nations, the international community and Lebanon all speak out against Hizbullah.... If the international community blames Hizbullah why are you screaming bloody murder at Israel?

Chomsky isn't a historian, sociologist, pollitician, military stratergist... He's a fucking lingust... A holocaust revisionism supporting self loathing jew.

And of course I'm going to support my country... they've just been invaded!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696&q=peace+propaganda