Should Israel smite down Hezbollah with a mighty blow?

Bush and Blair transcript

Pair of muppets.

Aint they just

bush is a legend

Hes a complete fanny

i know that, but hes still a legend

How?

everytime i see him on tele hes fucked somet up.

That makes him a cock not a legend

he always makes me laugh, its his comedy face with his fumbled speaches

he is stupidly funny i agree with you on that :chill:

theres nothing more ironic than using propoganda to fight propoganda

shit video.

Not really, bush hit the nail bang on the head.

Fair play Jewseph

I meant the shit chummy jokes about buying each other sweaters, and the fact they were caught having a privtae conversation in front of an open mic.

shit cos it tells the truth? shit cos it blows your zionist half truths to hell?
it's not irony it's tragedy. Israeli actions in lebanon will end in more suicide bombers more hatred more death. and no peace or security for Israelis.

News agencies report what the public want to view, there are left wing stations in America - just as there are right wing channels... America is overwhelmingly right wing which is why the media bias slants slightly towards Israel.

Suggesting that the Jews control the media is old fashioned anti-semitism, being critical of Israel is fine but when you play on age old antisemitic stereotypes then your agenda becomes transparent.

Its amusing how many anti-zionists also claim jews control the banks, israel controls america, the jews control the media, the jews control the world... sound familiar?

And the video is shit because there isn't a shred of truth in it.

the video doesn't claim that the jews own the media. it claims that reporting is skewed because of the israeli PR operation. An operation which threatens journalists with being shown as anti semitic if they do not report things in the "correct" way.
in just the same way you carachterise my anti Israeli views as anti semitic. I am not. I am anti religious however and I am anti jewish anti catholic anti christian and anti islamic.
and if you think there is not a shred of truth in it you are a bigot who refuses to recognise any truth which does not fit your prejudice

You can dress it up in an array of intellectual layers but the message remains the same.

The jews control the media.

Explain to me how Israel holds such influence over a US media that the American government has trouble controlling (they tend to result to censorship to manage reporting)... Are you seriously suggesting that the bias is out of fear of being branded antisemitic?

Why would one of the most powerful collectives in the world (the US media) fear one of America's smallest demographics?

Anti-semitism and anti-Zionism go hand in hand; many people like yourself buy into the complex web of deception spun by Israeli/Jewish critics acting as a constant recruitment for global antisemitic sentiment.

Traditional antisemites are now vociferous anti-Zionists, just as racial scientists legitimised their jew hatred by attempting to prove the jew as an inferior race - the modern antisemite cloaks his hatred with the anti-zionist flag.

Many anti-Zionists are not antisemites, but the majority buy into the antisemitic propaganda and many find themselves subconsciously straying into traditional antisemitic territory.

If Israeli critics are truly opposed to antisemitism, they shouldn't repeat traditional anti-semitic themes under the anti-Israel flag. When themes like; the Jewish conspiracy to rule the world arise, linking Jews with money and media, the hooked-nose right arsed Jew, the blood libel, disparaging use of Jewish symbols, or traditional Christian anti-Jewish imagery - then that person true colours show.

This imagery is rife in the anti-Zionist community and you yourself have just posted up what you thought to be an acceptable form of this bigotry.

you make me sad. you are obviously a bright bloke and your jewishness is central to your identity which is a good thing. But it has led you into blind acceptance of Israeli racism and facism. This is a country which has occupied territories to which it has no right and has mercilesly mistreated the people who live there.No wonder they fight back. so would I . I guess I take up their cause because it is the cause of the underdog. Anyone who disagrees with Israel is branded anti semitic and any Jews who do so are branded "self hating"
Chomski seems to me to talk sense. But he of course hates himself so whatever he says can be marginalised.
Israeli policy is ultimately self defeating in the same way that the bush blair 'war on terror is self defeating
violence breeds violence. Injustice breeds injustice.
If the leaders of Israel had wisdom they would not constantly take 10 eyes for an eye.
this is not strength it is weakness.

Lets deal with reality, Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip which should of triggered a democratic peace seeking reaction from the Palestinians but instead these efforts provided the Palestinians with a launch pad to fire their Qassam rockets into Israel.

You view Israel as an oppressive land grabbing bully while turning a blind eye to context of Israel’s aggressive actions.

Israel is surrounded by nations that want to destroy it (Iran are currently supplying Hizbullah with Fajr-3 missles to fire into Israel - why should Iran hate Israel - they're not even an Arab state!), how can you cry bloody murder when it is Israel that is under constant attack from those you are so quick to defend?

Every Arab-Israeli war was initiated by the Arabs, Israel has always been a peace seeking nation… It was forced into the current Mexican stand off by the very Arabs that vowed to kill every last Jew.

Israel have put forward countless peace proposals; we've offered the right to return, billions in aid, land for peace, we've pulled out of the Gaza Strip... yet all these efforts falls upon deaf ear as the Arabs still believe that the Jews should be driven into the sea.

Do you disagree with any of the above?

I wish my life were as black and white as yours, just because they are the weaker nation it does not mean that they are an honourable cause!

Can I ask how Hizbullah deserve your support?

What the fuck? I've never accused anyone of being antismeitic... I said your video was antisemitic and it was....

JEWS DO NOT CONTROL THE MEDIA!!!!!!!!!

I find it hard to take any jew that has flirted with Holocaust Revisionism seriously....

What are you talking about?!?!?!?

Show me the Palestinian efforts for peace!!!!