Surely the government has to start listening now....

Pete can have a rather negative attitude aswell, I think that I'm just far too optimistic.

Also Spence, any legally synthed drugs would be near enough 100% pure quality, it's all relative and 125mg mdma would be pretty much 125mg mdma. EU standards are good for something I suppose.

Considering the amount of passed hands plus all the additional costs of aquiring illicit precursors from dodgy sources I think stuff could be synthed pretty cheaply, and tax wouldn't be that much of an issue. People pay rediculous prices for "legal highs" with shite marketing slogans, when if they had any brains/could be half arsed they could buy the pure substance for relatively cheap. I think most people just don't give a shit though and can't be arsed to look into it.

RAVERBABY1980 - I think that the idea that drug users are looking for a way out of anything is a massively over-stated and missused comment. Personally I couldn't give a fuck about taxes, education and fines. I get more than enough money to get by, I have no gripes with my education and have never recieved a fine (excluding metro). They always seem like such cliche topics for people to get so outraged about, personally I just have massive gripes about opressive governments violating our human rights and like to alter my sensory input and mode of thought. I like seeing things from a different perspective, it's got not nothing to do with escaping these so called giant problems that most people experience. I quite simply love getting wrecked. I just have something about people being locked up for what is essentialy nothing.

Fuck it, bring on the counter-culture.

Taken to PM's because I don't want it to seem like we are arguing on the board, about something now completely off topic when we're not.

Well of course you'd be expected to get locked up, the police aren't going to just send you on your merry way if you get caught (unless you do the blag of the century, aka me circa 2002).

You would expect to get locked up, but does that mean that you'd think you deserved it?

Honestly, if you were locked up for what is essentially a victimless crime, you'd think that you deserved it? Do you think that your average absolutely sound clubber if they got caught selling you pills and done for intent to supply circa 2004 in Promise would actually deserve a jail sentance? Pete I know that there is absolutely no way you'd just not give a shit, you'd have been gutted for them.

The people in government are not on our side in this situation, they quite simply do not care what happens to us as they (wrongly) interpret us as a menace to society which is quite simply not true. I don't see how a bunch of clubbers can agree with this. These are peoples lives and prospects we are talking about, once you're on that kind of charge there is no way out.

Spence - I still remember the night in egypt cottage circa 2004 that you told me you'd actually got hold of pure mdma, I was on an absolute mission from then on.

A changed man now though, ex clubber if ever there was on.

of course! i would love drugs to be legalised! all of them! now!

however i just dont think it would work.

well said rossy many good points said which i cant be arsed to quote.

it goes without saying loads of people on here, if not about 95 percent love getting wrecked on their substance of choice, however it all obviously comes with the risks. however small or large the risk is people take it, because they generally have the best time of their life every single time!

i take that risk all the time, and its all in the name of good. to be honest i'm a right morbid cunt and really dont care about death that much. i came to terms with that years ago! (infact its very morbid since i'm only 20!) but still regardless of that, as rossy states so loudly, why should the police take away our right to have a good time, a laugh, a frisk, casual random patter in toilets etc when its all in the name of good! piss take. like i said earlier the culture is too strong and that means it wont fizzle out in a hurry. the buzz is just too good

however, there's alot of dodgy cowie goin about at the minute, so i'm watching myself at global

and in regards to the training thing that was said a few pages back (i think)

i take 2 seratonin tablets before bed (basically holland & barrett herbal sleeping tablets) and a glass of milk if i can stomach it.

i wake up still a little shaky but i can train just as hard as normal the day after, and the effects of the training feel increased slightly, which i know they arent, but the feeling is all that matters

Anybody who supports the prohibation of drugs is essentialy supporting a totalitarian government.