Surely the government has to start listening now....

and may i add, is a nasty pastie

That (in bold) is an absolute statement and therefore totally wrong as there would quite clearly be benefits, which I shall now list again for you.

People would not have to deal with the police/prison terms for choosing to do heroin, cocaine or crack.

People could regulate their doses and not accidently end up taking adulterated substances. For example people can OD because they are used to taking shit quality smack, then they take something decent and go under. This would no longer be an issue. Life threatening adulterants fortunately don't seem to be much of a problem in the uk drug scene, but there have been a LOT of hospital admisssions recently because of BZP/MCPP pills being sold of MDMA. This would no longer be an issue.

With a reformed drug policy would hopefully come REAL drug education/resources and an end to the completely false drug myths in the media. Something more akin to erowid with a comprehensive list of reccomended doses, effects, contraindictions, toxicology reports and experiences as opposed to the absolute laughing stock that is talktofrank.com It's not usefull whatsoever and contains dangerous information.

and how can the strength of a drug go down! Do people just say this to wind me up? If you are buying pharm grade drugs then the "strength" is relative and absolute. If you buy 100mg of MDMA then it is 100mg MDMA. If you want to do more than that you buy more. If drugs weren't illegal, they chould be produced cheaper than what chemists can now, which then have to pass fuck knows how many hands just to get onto the market (at a pretty decent price to be fair). The government is hardly going to charge you £60 for a gram of MDMA, when chemists in other countries are managing to produce it illegaly then ship it here illegaly for less than that?

Anti drug attitudes are the new racism/homophobia/sexism. Eventually people will open their minds and realise how logically sound this ideology is.

I love making comments like that, it makes me feel well left wing, mannnn.

I am the equivalent of an internet clubber. Proper armchair ecologist/activist.

Your logic is totally screwed, we'd be saving everyone, even the world! Think outside your little box (of mind numbing lager) si, get off the beer and on the acid, we've got work to do. I'm off to listen to techno and save society, enjoy the pub.

Your analogy imo is flawed, because said nova driver could easily inflict a direct risk to others, whereas drug users can be quite capable of causing no damage to anyone but themselves.

A large proportion of tryptamines (that's your lsd, mushrooms and a wide variety of other psychedelic chemicals) are not known to be toxic and haven't killed anyone, yet are illegal substances due to a catch all classification in the UK. Some of them are very mellow and gentle on the mind and weren't given a second chance.

However, some of them can be aquired legally (falling outside the act or through perfectly legal natural sources), they are open to the general public and just as intense as any of the classified chemicals yet you don't see everyone going into meltdown and rushing out their way to buy them. These horror chemicals which will cause the end of society are already legal in some cases and how many people even do them?

As may have been mentioned in this thread, there was apparently (in all honestly never seen the study) a decrease in cannabis use when it was declassified, possibly in holland or something like that. There are already intense, legal chemicals like salvia and LSA and the majority of the public don't have the slightest bit of interest in them, while the rest use them responsibly.

I mean DMT, the most powerfull drug on the planet (with use going back to mayan culture) is produced by our own fucking brains, it is actually thought to be a vital neurotransmitter and it's a Class A substance! It's fucking unbelievable, imagine if you could get locked in a cell because you were caught with excessive posession of something that grows inside your brain!

To summarise, drugs are legal and they are not causing anywhere near enough problems outweighing those of the poor cunts that are locked up in jail. The rest are illegal, often for no reason at all and quite simply should not be.

Or lets all be productive robots and make our ever so caring employers millions of pounds.

sorry to bring this thread up again, but i was reading a report about Ket early this morning:

Gov. Ket report

and one of the statements really boiled my piss (top of page 6 for reference):

"In this case, sentences of six years were
imposed as the offence charged was one of attempting to supply ecstasy. It is
felt that ketamine supply represents low risk and high gains to organised
criminals and the public is not adequately protected."

that is a right piss take..... you take drugs because you take drugs. unless of course your being spiked... however even if you were given some dodgey ket pill instead of an E, you are still running the gaunlet anyway! and ket technically isnt as dangerous!

rarrrrr!

i havent a clue why i'm reading this report, i think its because i was trying to find the legal classification of ephedrine

And after looking ephedrine doesent seem to be on the list, although its still illegal..... the bastards!

and in my horrible pissed state i made it my mission to post on every forum:



sad fucking bastard.

The people who stormed that police station sound like a bunch of fucking idiots though. Just fucked everything up for all concerned in Norfolk I'd imagine.