the Illuminati

honestly the tower DID fall down. It's not still there. I saw where it isn't.

what I meant was if the BEEB did as you say why do you think they did that?

I dont think they did deliberately do it. I think they were fed information from a source which was rolled out far too early by pure accident.

a source they coluded with? or just a piece of info they were handed?

were getting ridiculous now...

My opinions empirical, I've taken in both sides of what happened, I just feel the Governments official story has omitted & distorted so much scientifically thats it's more laughable than believable. Theres just too much that cant be explained or justified using the Official Version. Pretty much everything can be explained using alternative theories.

Either, it doesn't take away the fact that they confirmed the greatest prediction of all time probably since Nostradamus ...

greatest prediction of all time!!!!!!!!


ok - now i know you're taking the piss. i'm biting no more.

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two goldfish in a bowl one says to the other
well if there's no god who changes the water?

Zeitgeist is the one to watch..

Definitly opens your eyes

bobby brownose been bringing apples for mos again?

Im definitely reiterating stuff I've seen, Podcasts I listen to & documentaries I've watched. I've also read the actual official report that was published along with the apparent myths that were debunked by Popular Mechanics.

Im no expert nor have a proven background in Science or Architecture but if what your saying to me is that everyone who chooses to side a version of an event which can be easily exaplined using the theory of explosives/controlled demolition & Physics is an idiot, over a stroy which has ommitted & distorted all of the above to get their point across then they too need to have a good hard long look at themselves.

we do work for a strategies/research company in Newcastle. They work with anyone from schools to companies to governments. Predict futures, economies, all sorts of big stuff. He's just been over to Singapore to talk to politicians etc etc.

Stu the Chief Exec is a very intelligent guy, has pretty much a photographic memory, and a mackem!

Anyway he pretty much knows everything, as he says....

Conspiracy theories are almost always made up so people can deny the truth that something actually happened for the reason it did.

And most of these "facts" are often massively exagerated or simply incorrect.

He does say there is some truth in this illuminati thing tho.

The problem with steel design is that upto yeild vast amount of work has been done as it is easy to estimate accuratley what actually happens, after that you go into the plastic range and still on the whole we can model what will happen.

The problem comes with this sort of problem is that it is a time dependant model with so many unknowns that even with the best F.E. packages and most comercial and widely used codes you will still not be able to simulate everything which happened because no one knows.

As for saying the buildings were close to tollerance, every main steel joist, connection, bolted joint would be well within allowable stresses against the codes of the time.

Also proudy where did you copy and paste the freefall arguement from?

I am still undecided on what side I sit on, I do think that it is an interesting concept that powers unkown did this but I don't know how something this big could be conceeded for this long with out something slipping up.

Thing is im no conspiracy buff, like I've stated in previous posts im totally open to all accounts surrounding 9/11, my point is that an event which has defied laws of Physics on 3 seperate occasions all in the same day in 3 buildings all owned by the same Lease holder surely warrants it being questioned or investigated?

The bodies weren't even cold on ground zero & the Government had the steel shipped to China to be melted down? Surely if this was a criminal/terrorist act then everything inside ground zero is evidence which shouldn't have been touched until fully/openly investigated?